From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Avery Pennarun" <apenwarr@gmail.com>
Cc: "Nicolas Pitre" <nico@cam.org>,
"Johan Herland" <johan@herland.net>,
git@vger.kernel.org, "Stephan Beyer" <s-beyer@gmx.net>,
"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
"Pieter de Bie" <pdebie@ai.rug.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Detached-HEAD reminder on commit?
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:31:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vbpz479zs.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32541b130809032150i418014bdo8a838f529e109f50@mail.gmail.com> (Avery Pennarun's message of "Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:50:18 -0400")
"Avery Pennarun" <apenwarr@gmail.com> writes:
> Why do people (including me) spend so much time with a detached HEAD?
> I think it happens mainly for the following reasons:
>
> 1) Checking out a remote branch "git checkout origin/master" detaches
> my HEAD, which is kind of bad, since it's such a common thing to want
> to do.
I do not think it is bad at all. The feature to detach HEAD was designed
for that kind of usage. Start sightseeing, possibly futz with the code,
and even create some snapshot commits, and then:
* if it starts to take a usable shape, say "git checkout -b my-topic",
from there, to give your exploration a lasting home; or
* if it doesn't pan out, just discard it with "git checkout -f master"
(or whatever you wanted to switch back to).
One thing that might help for downstream people would be to be able to say
"I am making 'my-topic' branch out of a detached HEAD, but it really is
meant to be a fork of origin/master that I detached my HEAD from, so
please set up tracking for that one".
You could force people to say "git checkout -b my-topic origin/master"
from the beginning, but that is very unreasonable and unworkable. When
you are exploring, you more often than not do not know where your quest
would lead to until spending some time. It is quite important to be able
to delay the decision to create a local branch to keep what you did, and
(more importantly) to be able to delay deciding what to name that topic.
Perhaps "git checkout -b my-topic" from a detached HEAD should inspect the
HEAD reflog to see which remote (or local) branch you came from, and give
that to the --track logic.
> 2) git-rebase and git-am detach the HEAD while they work. I think
> this is fine, but: you shouldn't be able to *reattach* the HEAD
> without first aborting the rebase or am operations....
PS1='[\u@\h \W$(__git_ps1 " (%s)")]\$ ' would help here.
I do not have an objection to the general idea of forbidding people from
switching branches out of detached HEAD while sequencer is in effect as a
safety measure, but I didn't think through possible negative implications.
> The remaining situations where someone is working on a detached HEAD
> (eg. checking out a particular commit, or actually implementing
> git-rebase like operations) seem to be pretty obviously *intentional*,
> and in that case, git should stay out of their way and let them do
> what they're doing.
Absolutely. Being able to explore, without having to first decide what
you are going to work on or what to name that branch, is a wonderful
feature. It really lowers the barrier to explore.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-04 5:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-02 19:31 [RFC] Detached-HEAD reminder on commit? Pieter de Bie
2008-09-02 19:43 ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-09-02 20:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-02 20:26 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-09-02 20:35 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-02 20:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-02 21:05 ` Stephan Beyer
2008-09-02 21:39 ` Johan Herland
2008-09-02 21:44 ` Jeff King
2008-09-02 21:51 ` Jeff King
2008-09-03 7:45 ` Johan Herland
2008-09-03 8:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-03 9:47 ` Johan Herland
2008-09-03 13:15 ` Jeff King
2008-09-03 13:34 ` Jeff King
2008-09-03 13:46 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-09-03 16:49 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-09-03 18:07 ` Jeff King
2008-09-03 19:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-03 19:41 ` Jeff King
2008-09-03 14:11 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-09-03 18:08 ` Jeff King
2008-09-03 15:16 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-02 21:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-02 22:53 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-04 4:50 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-09-04 5:31 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2008-09-05 23:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-02 21:51 ` Pieter de Bie
2008-09-02 22:11 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-02 22:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-02 22:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-03 11:27 ` Pieter de Bie
2008-09-05 17:13 ` [PATCH] Builtin-commit: show on which branch a commit was added Pieter de Bie
2008-09-07 5:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-07 5:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-07 23:05 ` [PATCH 1/2] pretty.c: add %% format specifier Pieter de Bie
2008-09-07 23:05 ` [PATCH 2/2] builtin-commit: show on which branch a commit was added Pieter de Bie
2008-09-21 10:42 ` [PATCH] Builtin-commit: " Jeff King
2008-09-29 20:09 ` Pieter de Bie
2008-09-29 22:44 ` Jeff King
2008-09-30 6:13 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-09-30 6:16 ` Jeff King
2008-09-30 9:45 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-09-30 9:52 ` [PATCH] git commit: Reformat output somewhat Andreas Ericsson
2008-09-30 6:37 ` [PATCH] Builtin-commit: show on which branch a commit was added Wincent Colaiuta
2008-09-30 7:09 ` Jeff King
2008-09-30 9:59 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-01 3:14 ` Jeff King
2008-10-01 8:13 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-01 15:10 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-01 15:22 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-01 15:25 ` Jeff King
2008-10-01 15:36 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-01 15:42 ` Jeff King
2008-10-01 15:44 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-01 21:06 ` [PATCH] git commit: Repaint the output format bikeshed (again) Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-01 22:06 ` Jeff King
2008-10-01 22:31 ` Jeff King
2008-10-02 5:40 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-02 21:13 ` Jeff King
2008-10-03 0:15 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-03 4:24 ` Jeff King
2008-10-03 14:09 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-04 2:13 ` Jeff King
2008-10-02 8:36 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-10-01 15:18 ` [PATCH] Builtin-commit: show on which branch a commit was added Jeff King
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