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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi>
Cc: Adam Simpkins <adam@adamsimpkins.net>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: log --graph --first-parent weirdness
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:31:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vbq2f3f9t.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080605095033.GC5946@mithlond.arda.local> (Teemu Likonen's message of "Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:50:33 +0300")

Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> writes:

> Well, I disagree :-) Merges are interesting points in history (they
> introduce features etc.) and for a "--graph --first-parent" user
> a certain already known merge is easier to find if there is a stable
> identifier for them.

Step back a bit.  Regular commits also introduce features.  If you want to
argue for marking a merge as more significant than single parent commits,
you need to justify the reason why a bit better.

When you are looking at a history (be it 'first-parent' or regular), each
transition introduces changes, but especially when you are talking about
first-parent, a merge is merely a squashed commit of everything that
happened on the side branch, which may be trivial one-liner fix or an
addition of full new command.  Why a merge of trivial one-liner fix should
be treated as more significant than a more involved change that directly
was done on the master branch?

A full and perfect implementation of a new command may have happened on a
side branch as a single commit.  If the master branch was dormant while it
was being done, the final merge of that side branch will result in a
fast-forward, and the introduction of the new command would appear as a
non-merge, regular commit.  If on the other hand there were activities on
master since the side branch forked, the introduction of the new command
would appear as a merge.  Why do you paint the latter as more significant
than the former?

If somebody argues for making the marking different (perhaps by color-code
the asterisk differently) depending on how much each commit changes the
tree relative to its parents, I would say it might be a great feature.
Such a display would treat the two cases I mentioned above equally.

I however do not think the number of recorded parents deserves such a
special treatment to clutter the output and distract people, especially
when "is it a merge?" can be easily seen by two other means (log message
and graph lines).

      reply	other threads:[~2008-06-05 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-04 15:00 log --graph --first-parent weirdness Teemu Likonen
2008-06-04 15:08 ` Teemu Likonen
2008-06-04 17:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-04 17:38   ` Teemu Likonen
2008-06-04 18:04     ` Adam Simpkins
2008-06-05  8:56       ` [PATCH] graph API: fix "git log --graph --first-parent" Adam Simpkins
2008-06-04 18:05     ` log --graph --first-parent weirdness Junio C Hamano
2008-06-05  1:37       ` Ping Yin
2008-06-05  9:28       ` Adam Simpkins
2008-06-05  9:50       ` Teemu Likonen
2008-06-05 18:31         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]

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