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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forward
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:05:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vd477v17r.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vpqvdkzwh3j.fsf@bauges.imag.fr> (Matthieu Moy's message of "Fri\, 07 Aug 2009 21\:37\:20 +0200")

Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr> writes:

> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
>
>> +Alternatively, you can rebase your change between X and B on top of A,
>> +with "git pull --rebase", and push the result back.  The rebase will
>> +create a new commit D that builds the change between X and B on top of
>> +A.
>> +
>> +----------------
>> +
>> +      B   D
>> +     /   /
>> + ---X---A
>> +
>> +----------------
>> +
>> +Again, updating A with this commit will fast-forward and your push will be
>> +accepted.
>
> Maybe add something about --force ? I don't like my wording very much,
> but a first try is this:
>
> Lastly, you can decide that the B shouldn't have existed, and delete
> it. This is to do with a lot of care, not only because it will discard
> the changes introduced in B, but also because if B has been pulled by
> someone else, he will have a view of history inconsistant with the
> original repository. This is done with the --force option.

To be consistent with the flow, I think you are discarding A in the
example, not B.  A is what somebody else pushed out before your failed
attempt of pushing B, and --force will discard A, replacing its history
with yours.

Of course, you also could decide that somebody else's change A is vastly
superior than your crappy B, and you may decide to do "git reset --hard A"
to get rid of your history locally; but you wouldn't be using "git push"
after that.  It is an equally valid outcome in the example situation and
until you fetch to see what A is, you cannot decide.

So, probably the order to teach would be:

 - You can pull to merge, or pull --rebase to rebase; either way, you are
   trying to preserve both histories.  [I've written on this in the
   previous message]

 - But you may realize that the commit by the other (i.e. A) was an
   incorrect solution to the same problem you solved with your B.  You
   _could_ force the push to replace it with B in such a case.  You need
   to tell the person who pushed A (and everybody else who might have
   fetched A and built on top) to discard their history (and rebuild their
   work that was done on top of A on top of B). [This is yours with A <=> B]

 - Alternatively you may realize that the commit by the other (i.e. A) was
   much better solution to the same problem you tried to solve with your
   B.  In such a case, you can simply discard B in your history with "git
   reset --hard A" after fetching.  You wouldn't be pushing anything back
   in this case.

I actually do not think it is appropriate to teach --force in an example
that involves more than one person (iow, in the context of the example in
my patch).  A lot better alternative in such a case is to "git merge -s
ours A" and push the result out, which keeps the fast-forwardness for the
person who did A, and others who pulled and built on top of A already.

So scratch your "lastly", replace it (and the second point in my list
above) with:

 - You may realize that the commit by the other (i.e. A) was an incorrect
   solution to the same problem you solved with your B.  In such a case,
   do _not_ use --force to remove A from the public history.  Instead,
   resolve the merge (in the previous instruction) favoring your solution,
   e.g. "git pull -s ours", and push the result out.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-07 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-06 17:32 [PATCH] push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forward Matthieu Moy
2009-08-06 20:04 ` Michael J Gruber
2009-08-07 19:21   ` Matthieu Moy
2009-08-07 19:46     ` Michael J Gruber
2009-08-06 20:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-06 21:16   ` [PATCH] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-08-06 21:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-07 19:37   ` [PATCH] " Matthieu Moy
2009-08-07 20:05     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2009-08-07 20:22       ` Matthieu Moy
2009-08-08  7:51 ` [PATCH v2] " Matthieu Moy
2009-08-08  8:35   ` Teemu Likonen
2009-08-08 15:22     ` Matthieu Moy
2009-08-08 16:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-08 22:23         ` [PATCH v2] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-08-09 18:35         ` [PATCH v2] " Matthieu Moy
2009-08-09 20:22           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-10  8:43             ` Matthieu Moy
2009-08-10  8:49               ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-10  8:56                 ` Matthieu Moy
2009-08-11  3:03         ` Nanako Shiraishi
2009-09-06  6:44           ` [RFC/PATCH 0/4] make helpful messages optional Jeff King
2009-09-06  6:46             ` [PATCH 1/4] push: fix english in non-fast-forward message Jeff King
2009-09-06  6:47             ` [PATCH 2/4] push: re-flow " Jeff King
2009-09-06  6:48             ` [PATCH 3/4] push: make non-fast-forward help message configurable Jeff King
2009-09-06  7:09               ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-06  7:23                 ` Jeff King
2009-09-06  7:30                   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-06  7:32                     ` Jeff King
2009-09-06  7:52                   ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-06 11:30                     ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-09-07  0:44                     ` Nanako Shiraishi
2009-09-07  7:35                       ` Johannes Sixt
2009-09-07  7:40                       ` Mike Hommey
2009-09-07  8:24                       ` Jeff King
2009-09-07  8:34                         ` Matthieu Moy
2009-09-07  8:54                           ` Jeff King
2009-09-07 11:20                             ` Matthieu Moy
2009-09-08 18:51                             ` Uri Okrent
2009-09-09 11:22                               ` Jeff King
2009-09-09 11:26                   ` [PATCH 0/2] configurable advice messages Jeff King
2009-09-09 11:38                     ` [PATCH 1/2] push: make non-fast-forward help message configurable Jeff King
2009-09-09 19:06                       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-09 20:39                         ` Jeff King
2009-09-09 21:47                           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-09 11:43                     ` [PATCH 2/2] status: make "how to stage" messages optional Jeff King
2009-09-06  6:50             ` [PATCH 4/4] " Jeff King
2009-09-06 11:53             ` [RFC/PATCH 0/4] make helpful " Matthieu Moy

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