From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert diffstat back to English
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:47:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vehm561eq.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120913213121.GA31426@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Thu, 13 Sep 2012 17:31:21 -0400")
Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 02:26:55PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
>> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
>>
>> > I do not think they are incompatible if you separate it into three
>> > categories: machine readable (must never be translated), for the current
>> > user right now (current i18n), and for sharing with other humans
>> > (i18n.projectlang).
>>
>> Anything you see as a user is potentially useful to other project
>> participants, so I do not think there is a bright line that
>> delineates the latter two classes. The output of format-patch is
>> obviously meant as the latter, but how about the output from show or
>> log? Is it worth trying to define the bright line somewhere, only
>> to annoy users who may want to draw the line differently?
>
> I agree that the line is not bright. I do not know if it is worthwhile
> or not. I think it will solve some practical problems, but it may also
> introduce others. But basically having a per-repo LANG setting (which
> is what the projectlang you are talking about would do) also does not
> seem like a solution that people will use, because they will not get any
> localization benefit at all.
>
> So again, I'd rather err on the side of pushing those things that are
> near the line into the "do not translate" side, letting people use LANG
> to localize the rest, and accepting that occasionally people are going
> to accidentally show you output in a language you don't understand. But
> hopefully that keeps it to "occasionally" and not "every time you send
> out a patch".
I am confused asto what you really want. In a Klingon-only project,
I think it is perfectly fine to localize the diffstat summary line
to Klingon. It is not machine readble, and it is not personal, but
it is to be shared with project members, who all speak Klingon.
Pushing more things to "do not translate" side of the line means
robbing the benefit of i18n from people, no?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-13 21:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-25 19:26 [PATCH RFC 0/2] Mixing English and a local language Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2012-08-25 19:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] Allow to print diffstat in English regardless current locale Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2012-08-25 19:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] format-patch: always print diffstat in English Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2012-09-12 14:05 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] Mixing English and a local language Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-09-12 18:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-09-13 13:28 ` Jeff King
2012-09-13 14:16 ` [PATCH] Revert diffstat back to English Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2012-09-13 14:57 ` Jeff King
2012-09-13 17:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-09-13 18:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-09-13 21:01 ` Jeff King
2012-09-13 21:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-09-13 21:20 ` Jeff King
2012-09-13 21:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-09-13 21:31 ` Jeff King
2012-09-13 21:47 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2012-09-14 0:11 ` Jeff King
2012-09-14 11:56 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-09-14 16:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-09-15 2:41 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-09-13 17:30 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] Mixing English and a local language Junio C Hamano
2012-09-13 17:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-09-13 18:04 ` Jeff King
2012-09-13 18:00 ` Jeff King
2012-09-14 10:41 ` Michael J Gruber
2012-09-14 11:35 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-09-14 12:40 ` [PATCH] Makefile: respect $LINGUAS variable on selecting .mo files to install Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2012-09-14 13:06 ` Michael J Gruber
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