From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] Add an option not to use link(src, dest) && unlink(src) when that is unreliable
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:55:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vljpl3m8i.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: alpine.LFD.2.00.0904270806130.22156@localhost.localdomain
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
>> Junio, do you want me to remove the config variable?
>
> I'd keep it. But I'd suggest that the naming is odd. Why talk about
> "unreliable hardlinks", when that's just a particular symptom. Why not
> just talk about whether hardlinks should be used or not?
>
> And to avoid double negative, make it
>
> [core]
> usehardlinks = true/false
>
> and then default it to 'true' for Unix.
I am a bit worried about this name, too. It may lead people to a
misunderstanding that we would do something magical when they do this with
the configuration set:
wget http://some.where/huge-file.mpg 1.mpg
ln 1.mpg 2.mpg
git add 1.mpg 2.mpg
rm -f 1.mpg 2.mpg
git checkout-index -a
ls -i ?.mpg
> The thing is, maybe people would prefer to use 'rename' over the
> link/unlink games even on some unixes, and not because of 'reliability'
> issues, but because they may have some filesystems that don't do
> hardlinks, and they'd just rather speed things up by avoiding the
> 'link()' system call that will just error out.
> So naming matters. Calling it 'unreliablehardlinks' in that case would be
> odd. They're not unreliable - you just don't want to try to use them.
This part I agree with.
> I also do wonder if we could/should make this one of those options that
> get set automatically at 'git init' time, rather than silently hardcoded
> as a compile option. I thought hardlinks at least sometimes worked fine on
> Windows too, don't they?
>
> I do detest _hidden_ default values for config options, unless those
> hidden defaults are "obviously always correct" as a default. This one
> smells a bit uncertain, and as a result I think it's ok to default to not
> using hardlinks, but doing it with .gitconfig would be nicer.
The coda hack comment in move_temp_to_file() shows what we can do to
autodetect (i.e. try cross directory hardlink), but I somehow thought that
we changed the code enough to ensure that we create the tmpfiles in the
same directory as their final destination?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-27 19:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-23 10:53 [PATCH] Add an option not to use link(src, dest) && unlink(src) when that is unreliable Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-23 19:16 ` Johannes Sixt
2009-04-23 19:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-25 9:57 ` [PATCH v2] " Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-25 16:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-04-25 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-25 18:38 ` Michael Gaber
2009-04-25 18:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 3:37 ` Jay Soffian
2009-04-25 18:50 ` Johannes Sixt
2009-04-25 17:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-04-26 17:39 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-25 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-23 19:39 ` [PATCH] " Alex Riesen
2009-04-23 21:59 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-24 5:44 ` Alex Riesen
2009-04-25 17:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-25 18:52 ` Johannes Sixt
2009-04-26 1:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-04-26 17:40 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-27 12:00 ` [PATCH v3] " Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-27 15:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 16:11 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-27 16:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 19:55 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2009-04-27 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 20:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 22:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-04-27 22:28 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-27 23:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 22:32 ` [PATCH] Rename core.unreliableHardlinks to core.createObject Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-27 23:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-04-28 8:23 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-28 8:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-04-28 14:50 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-28 20:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-04-28 22:07 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-26 17:38 ` [PATCH] Add an option not to use link(src, dest) && unlink(src) when that is unreliable Johannes Schindelin
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