From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Junio C Hamano Subject: Re: Hey - A Conceptual Simplication.... Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:33:05 -0800 Message-ID: <7vmy2h904e.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> References: <005a01ca684e$71a1d710$54e58530$@com> <20091118142512.1313744e@perceptron> <008401ca6880$33d7e550$9b87aff0$@com> <20091120013545.GA22556@dpotapov.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: George Dennie , 'Jan =?utf-8?Q?Kr=C3=BCger'?= , git@vger.kernel.org To: Dmitry Potapov X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri Nov 20 07:33:40 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NBN3r-0001pm-Fo for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:33:39 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755099AbZKTGdM (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:33:12 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754830AbZKTGdL (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:33:11 -0500 Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.25]:62092 "EHLO sasl.smtp.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754292AbZKTGdK (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:33:10 -0500 Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DD28113C; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:33:15 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=to:cc:subject :references:from:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=vCtIxJgo8c3oMGrf5KG3ujZrGg4=; b=FNPP1s rcoPEXcuHOf5hbCNS3OX1M6jpaNU25JQARPIryubNZYeYO5jD0tPEzr6Sxw2FZ0P 6udZpK+szjdcmiGbjk9Q5dvGncH/nG0/m8i9hg3BaoRz38R/qAWf7j17ttiVdQY3 yDgDKZ4d56iY257XyzwdH8wZomYbv/Xn6oZdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=to:cc:subject :references:from:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=ma3n6R0GbNrq7layke0/OeqhyrJsB7pC S9kQN4XcTwVleiS045ZATPC2gM13bHx93FrVcrHHvngbAjeSXZUpTvbJNwnppPnS VJ7kvjHiqlAqsouJNio9Hj3hPSPPrj+yrraizDyPjWNS81gzAhPr10hIj1K588io QkcHif4Yi3c= Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix. (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF05E8113B; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [68.225.240.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D93BC81139; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:33:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20091120013545.GA22556@dpotapov.dyndns.org> (Dmitry Potapov's message of "Fri\, 20 Nov 2009 04\:35\:46 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 93151D54-D59E-11DE-8005-9F3FEE7EF46B-77302942!a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Dmitry Potapov writes: > It is more difficult to make this mistake with Git than many others > VCSes, because Git shows the list of files that are changed but not > committed as well as the list of untracked files when you try to commit > something. Not really in practice. Too many people carry their existing practice of using -m to write a useless single liner commit log message that they acquired while using their previous SCM. Arguably, useless log messages are less of a problem on systems like CVS/SVN because they do not do useful log summarization such as "log -- paths..." or "shortlog", so they can be excused for learning the practice in the first place, though. That incidentally is exactly why earlier we (mostly me and Linus) recommended people not to teach "commit -m" to new people, but of course nobody listened ;-).