From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Junio C Hamano Subject: Re: questions / suggestions about history simplification Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 22:44:43 -0800 Message-ID: <7vr495jsf8.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> References: <20131219183645.GD23496@pacific.linksys.moosehall> <20131219190333.GE23496@pacific.linksys.moosehall> <20131219205858.GJ23496@pacific.linksys.moosehall> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: git mailing list To: Adam Spiers X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Dec 22 07:44:44 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VucmJ-0006sD-Nh for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 07:44:44 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752237Ab3LVGok (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Dec 2013 01:44:40 -0500 Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.35]:35975 "EHLO smtp.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752129Ab3LVGoj (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Dec 2013 01:44:39 -0500 Received: from smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C112E4D425; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 01:44:38 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=vrDVzpfxxoQ/JyI7mOM+KxyNOwU=; b=kaJjA/ NhQBDZRF4YvP9fOYm345iwONArErqdzcHLXh1KnQtCzLOaeea7fzTMcWR5hNMVJO x96cKWxrvzPbWYGIBXXt8PMWyJHWGNY49R02AsP+QcIDRiVC/NrxWk1dCfCG3LxF hxQ3muMShHX8KFLzQpSaH8yE6Lwf+CE0uLX6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=woFhbTK7n2ZZ1sx/kYCvsXi2lCy+uthu zuHS/x5kjoljudg0J7D9xjaIpQ3CAV2nARUmP+dh03cnuY0WNZc3WEIPzRIEPfdc fpVaTrJaGQfulAd5ghNk0KRvA5zfveCw4uIglXTUXgBoKTDtKq0V4AeXM1W9lNa4 6c9Gut33SfI= Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1784D424; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 01:44:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [198.0.213.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9DC104D422; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 01:44:37 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20131219205858.GJ23496@pacific.linksys.moosehall> (Adam Spiers's message of "Thu, 19 Dec 2013 20:58:58 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 86AFFCDA-6AD4-11E3-A15A-1B26802839F8-77302942!b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Adam Spiers writes: >> I doubt it. 75% of the work for such a person to understand the >> behaviour from such an example is to understand what kind of history >> the example is building. > > Agreed. And that's precisely why I wanted a real repository > manifesting the given example: being able to view it in gitk makes > that a lot easier to understand, for obvious reasons. > ... > Well I didn't roll my own; I just copied the example from the man > page. So it only tells you that I was spending a fair amount of > effort trying to understand the man page ;-) Oh, that part I would agree, but then ... > Not if the man page says "if you wish to experiment with these options > yourself, you can easily recreate the repository in this example by > running the script contrib/foo bundled in the source distribution". > ... > The goal of sharing the series of commands is not to educate users > through reading them, but simply to save them the time they would have > to spend manually recreating the example scenario given in the man > page. ... this part could be even easier if distro ships a sample repository, not a recipe to create such a sample repository, no?