From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Junio C Hamano Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add --info-path and --man-path options to git. Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 20:47:26 -0700 Message-ID: <7vzkn5pxv5.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> References: <1304237785-56101-1-git-send-email-jon.seymour@gmail.com> <7vbozmthhy.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> <20110501234833.GC11550@elie> <7v62puq8a5.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> <20110502002535.GE11550@elie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Jon Seymour , git@vger.kernel.org To: Jonathan Nieder X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon May 02 05:47:52 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QGk6r-0007oT-RN for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Mon, 02 May 2011 05:47:46 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754702Ab1EBDrk (ORCPT ); Sun, 1 May 2011 23:47:40 -0400 Received: from a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com ([64.74.157.62]:44949 "EHLO sasl.smtp.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751966Ab1EBDrj (ORCPT ); Sun, 1 May 2011 23:47:39 -0400 Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EDF58EB; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:49:40 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=LP3xiUHxJIvR/NNWru6e2PJ8FqU=; b=JrMyZL bljLI3hJsYYx7RWK1dGIGBnFdfCIejfXJRT2oTN4ecJojfMq96FW03XeCP9mwa1+ A88OgS6LqSeD4EeSBn5QSvR5gBe2ysHd9s7WpeGi9iwSuxK663e2nnVU+DzsCLuU 3rxzjt8A0YwRYeyGu+MjiEgcNXRgWTnWiY7KQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=OjgTOpGNN97/Q5z/vXxq60/xMlBjkGlo WSHwkdHBjzjksapWEEvxWFApFsTgrnAb8DsNKuZPZM3suMBziczijS+JQwXWoHML LECDdlhdIbr42dansXWGUY3aEbTMS6EIIbohNQM3jhNR5nHDKQ/zUDXjrBt6WHqt 3dZ5Y2U37qw= Received: from a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F5458E6; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [76.102.170.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6490858E2; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:49:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20110502002535.GE11550@elie> (Jonathan Nieder's message of "Sun, 1 May 2011 19:25:35 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 326D4AD2-746F-11E0-9EF8-E8AB60295C12-77302942!a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Jonathan Nieder writes: > I am still not very happy about it. The man browser is in a much > better position to help: the default MANPATH (at least under Debian; > see manpath(5)[1]) is generated by mapping $PATH entries on the fly, and > it seems like only an oversight that it deals with directories under > /usr but not /home. And it does not thrill me that we would be > training people that > > git help git > > will cover for the installer's mistakes, while the more conventional > > man git > > mechanism (which is also used for other programs installed to $HOME) > will not. Well, is there anything I can do to help your unhappiness about that? Where is your unhappiness coming from? Is this your argument? 'git help' allows distros' oversight with its -m and -i options; it discourages distros to get their act together. I personally do not think punishing users of distros by not helping would be an effective way to encourage distros to help their users, so even though I kind of agree with that statement, I wouldn't conclude that with "therefore, git shouldn't try to be helpful with 'help [-m|-i]'".