From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Junio C Hamano Subject: Re: Consistent terminology: cached/staged/index Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:15:27 -0800 Message-ID: <7vzkph6ggw.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> References: <20110213193738.GA26868@elie> <7v8vxjwnhj.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> <20110214231920.GA24814@elie> <20110226215139.GA19176@elie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Jonathan Nieder , Piotr Krukowiecki , git@vger.kernel.org To: Felipe Contreras X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Feb 27 09:15:50 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PtbnA-0004SF-TJ for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:15:49 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751571Ab1B0IPm (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Feb 2011 03:15:42 -0500 Received: from a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com ([64.74.157.62]:50072 "EHLO sasl.smtp.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751338Ab1B0IPl (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Feb 2011 03:15:41 -0500 Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF652343; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 03:16:55 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=to:cc:subject :references:from:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=bMfN8jDXER8ppQJmblMdrsFD290=; b=GELwdw y+GyZSpsXTIHHFCKaXkdMImVJXitXDbUKswFMwXoJ5uadu4VHoHuWHtDMsKFQ9pU zeoAdB1lm94K20gxtj+CtXJYTTn5vFYxNgVRpSAYFz2UAJTM9dWSZDMQWMTpG3xh Dc9ZXdiEj0RaSx72wLE+zIXRgzgm75T9tqajo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=to:cc:subject :references:from:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=xNxprkA0DqqYQMcAXk38Q+Mn9KNqxjtp pdAdAgf1HLjjmtxK5EDlviWfqhPmRRRxU7SjzNTY6x9kmAEWcXXcxz8r0vCINPM6 ZCbObknRpvbhuaV5I46AfETYjKJURERBCtyjMQiufo9HHxoVxKlTpn339dX5WS0W orys+ScbA9s= Received: from a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2AC2341; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 03:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [76.102.170.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 75CF72340; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 03:16:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Felipe Contreras's message of "Sun\, 27 Feb 2011 02\:16\:40 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: ED98A07A-4249-11E0-A002-AF401E47CF6F-77302942!a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Felipe Contreras writes: > There's always resistance, but 1.8 is supposed to contain stuff as "if > git was written from scratch". Yes, the 1.8.0 is indeed an opportunity to rethink, based on the wisdom we have gained over the years since the current git was written. If there has already been a clear consensus that we would have done something differently if we knew better, it is an opportunity to first discuss if there is a way to correct these earlier mistakes in a way that does not have to introduce incompatibility, and if it is not feasible, discuss a plan to ease incompatible changes in without hurting existing users too much. A new discussion or proposal is fine, but you should be able to see that an effort to start building consensus from now is very much outside the scope of the discussion for the 1.8.0 we have been having. Besides, taking what other people said already in the thread also into account, it looks to me that what you are advocating is too premature to be called a consensus yet.