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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Kristofer Karlsson <krka@spotify.com>
Cc: Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 4/6] t6600: add test cases for side-exhaustion edge cases
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2026 16:28:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <80a0426c-7146-4212-a8cd-d884f4424b2c@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL71e4M0T4fFG4JuYTp_ZPHzNcHXf342Xkh0n0dt4LVKsuSu2Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/22/2026 3:25 PM, Kristofer Karlsson wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 at 20:15, Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It's usually my preference to see these tests show up before the
>> new code arrives, that way we can see that they already work with
>> the old logic and continue to work with the new logic.
>>
>> It's minor, but putting them after your code change may be adding
>> enforcement of a change of behavior.
> 
> Agreed, I actually also prefer that in practice so I am not
> sure why I ordered them this way - perhaps some attempt at
> making it easier to review (show the idea and change before
> the verification). I will reorder to put all new tests as the first commit
> (or second, if I will also introduce a status-quo technical first).
> 
>>
>> One thing that could be helpful here is to consider tracing a
>> count of "commits walked" in the merge-base code, then you could
>> have these tests demonstrate the performance benefit by checking
>> for that number changing.
> 
> Good idea, I actually had some of that locally when developing it,
> but I removed the ugly traces before submitting this. I will try to
> re-introduce that in a nice way. It would be neat to let tests
> inspect that side effect, though in the worst case that could make
> it fragile. At the very least it's good for human debugging though.

And to be clear, I'm suggesting using trace2_data_intmax() calls
to get structured data that can be parsed in the GIT_TRACE2_EVENT
logs during tests. It could also be picked up by teletry tools that
listen to trace2 output, if desired.

It will show up differently in GIT_TRACE2_PERF, but that's a nice
human-readable way to debug things.

>> In t6600, that tracing number would not be the same across the
>> three different data shapes (full graph, half graph, no graph) and
>> that could be valuable to demonstrate in tests.
> 
> Agreed, the number of commits visited would be more interesting
> than the relative performance numbers since it's an algorithmic
> change rather than a micro-optimization.
They are both interesting, but only the commit count can be
guaranteed rigorously in the test suite. It's possible that a
great improvement to such a trace doesn't result in great end-to-
end time improvement, but I believe that it is true in this case.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-22 20:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-20 10:36 [PATCH/RFC 0/6] commit-reach: terminate merge-base walk when one side is exhausted Kristofer Karlsson via GitGitGadget
2026-06-20 10:36 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/6] commit-reach: decouple ahead_behind from nonstale_queue Kristofer Karlsson via GitGitGadget
2026-06-22 18:00   ` Derrick Stolee
2026-06-22 18:53     ` Kristofer Karlsson
2026-06-20 10:36 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/6] commit-reach: introduce struct paint_queue with per-side counters Kristofer Karlsson via GitGitGadget
2026-06-22 18:10   ` Derrick Stolee
2026-06-22 19:14     ` Kristofer Karlsson
2026-06-22 20:23       ` Derrick Stolee
2026-06-20 10:36 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/6] commit-reach: terminate merge-base walk when one paint side is exhausted Kristofer Karlsson via GitGitGadget
2026-06-22 18:12   ` Derrick Stolee
2026-06-22 19:19     ` Kristofer Karlsson
2026-06-22 20:26       ` Derrick Stolee
2026-06-22 21:03         ` Kristofer Karlsson
2026-06-20 10:36 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/6] t6600: add test cases for side-exhaustion edge cases Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-22 18:15   ` Derrick Stolee
2026-06-22 19:25     ` Kristofer Karlsson
2026-06-22 20:28       ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2026-06-20 10:36 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/6] t6099, t6600: add side-exhaustion regression tests Kristofer Karlsson via GitGitGadget
2026-06-22 18:16   ` Derrick Stolee
2026-06-20 10:36 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/6] Documentation/technical: add paint-down-to-common doc Kristofer Karlsson via GitGitGadget
2026-06-22 18:21   ` Derrick Stolee
2026-06-22 19:30     ` Kristofer Karlsson
2026-06-22 18:22 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/6] commit-reach: terminate merge-base walk when one side is exhausted Derrick Stolee

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