From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Alex Riesen" Subject: Re: [PATCH/POLL] git-format-patch: the default suffix is now .patch, not .txt Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:05:52 +0100 Message-ID: <81b0412b0701180805r276fcfaq2c1582ab8e82515b@mail.gmail.com> References: <87ps9d7j6t.fsf@morpheus.local> <625fc13d0701171218i31585558wf89374eae9485341@mail.gmail.com> <7vsle9p8pg.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <7vd55dp5a3.fsf_-_@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <81b0412b0701172359y1ef4f936pcdcb2de53d6bd468@mail.gmail.com> <7v64b4ohcj.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <81b0412b0701180135r505a75a5j172c70792d6569c0@mail.gmail.com> <625fc13d0701180352m151cceb3lf9c00b6cf0ae937b@mail.gmail.com> <81b0412b0701180540x15d20453s3dbc0c061fd06d50@mail.gmail.com> <20070118154257.GC15428@spearce.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Josh Boyer" , "Junio C Hamano" , git@vger.kernel.org, davidk@lysator.liu.se X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Jan 18 17:06:06 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H7Zm1-0004Q6-GQ for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:05:57 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752047AbXARQFz (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:05:55 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752049AbXARQFz (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:05:55 -0500 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.226]:26042 "EHLO wr-out-0506.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752047AbXARQFy (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:05:54 -0500 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i22so199579wra for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:05:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Mj8PxT94GHzXoZD7u5uzj6+foO63tyVNtyFSnmzYnoy18ijow7CFOqf8pXHljsMOARbEanijRdGh4St8rwlbzeazL2QcSmxt8uK4wTx+DAICef7+ALrr0UgTaEB2QAC96iqsiNYk39Kaj8fV7gQhlLCxGgW5/uuisRYVO0B7LvI= Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr1012441hue.1169136352705; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:05:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.135.3 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:05:52 -0800 (PST) To: "Shawn O. Pearce" In-Reply-To: <20070118154257.GC15428@spearce.org> Content-Disposition: inline Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On 1/18/07, Shawn O. Pearce wrote: > > The _real_ majority of the programmers desperately need a better > > VCS than CVS, SVN, Perforce, SourceSafe, ClearCase, etc. > > Yes. But... > > Yesterday I had a conversation with the software configuration > management guy at my day-time-pays-the-bills organization. > They are seriously looking at Perforce and ClearCase, as these are > lightyears ahead of what we have already (PVCS Version Manager). > They also have 1-800-my-vendor telephone numbers which you can > call and scream at someone when the tool corrupts its internal > database[*1*], or when you cannot figure out what the "Checkout" > action in the context menu does[*2*]. > > However my fellow developers and I use Git. We export our changes > out to PVCS Version Manager via an *ugly* Perl script that I would > never actually wish on anyone (which is one reason why its not > contributed as git-pvcsexport). Configuration management guy won't > even look at Git's real strengths as it lacks the all-important > 1-800-git-help[*3*] phone number. Of course, he is the who'll do the yelling. It's you who'll need support. Standard Perforce replies: "it is not supported" (if you need branches as in Git), or "we will probably look into it" (if you point them to a bug. They never really do). Worst performance in the industry, too. ClearCase had a sleep(6 /*sec*/) before writing a file in local checkouts on linux, for whatever reason :) It at least knows about oriented graphs.