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From: "Kristoffer Haugsbakk" <code@khaugsbakk.name>
To: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/5] advice: make all entries stylistically consistent
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2024 11:36:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83b2748f-0af9-4fce-a88d-a016e85f91ef@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq4jdlmu6q.fsf@gitster.g>

On Tue, Mar 5, 2024, at 00:52, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>>  	detachedHead::
>> -		Advice shown when you used
>> +		Shown when the user uses
>>  		linkgit:git-switch[1] or linkgit:git-checkout[1]
>> -		to move to the detached HEAD state, to instruct how to
>> +		to move to the detached HEAD state; instruct how to
>>  		create a local branch after the fact.
>
> I agree "Advice shown when" -> "Shown when" is a good change for
> brevity, but I do not think the other change is an improvement.
>
> This advice message is shown when the user does X, in order to
> instruct the user how to do Y after that.  And "to instruct" is a
> common way to say the same thing as "in order to instruct".

Well argued. I’ll go back to the comma.

>>  	implicitIdentity::
>> -		Advice on how to set your identity configuration when
>> -		your information is guessed from the system username and
>> -		domain name.
>> +		Shown when the user's information is guessed from the
>> +		system username and domain name: tell the user how to
>> +		set their identity configuration.
>
> Should that be a colon?  Stopping a half-sentence and connecting to
> another half-sentence is usually done with a semicolon (like you did
> in the new version of detachedHEAD above).
>
> 	Shown when ... and domain name, to tell the user how to set
> 	their identity configuration.
>
> perhaps?  There may be other similar entries whose updated text uses
> colon followed by an imperative sentence, but I didn't look very
> carefully.

I’ll spoil it for you: there are a lot of colons. ;)

Good point. I’ll go over it again and probably use more semicolons
instead.

>>  	statusUoption::
>> -		Advise to consider using the `-u` option to linkgit:git-status[1]
>> -		when the command takes more than 2 seconds to enumerate untracked
>> -		files.
>> +		Shown when linkgit:git-status[1] takes more than 2
>> +		seconds to enumerate untracked files: consider using the
>> +		`-u` option.
>
> Earlier ones after a colon (or semicolon in detachedHEAD case), you
> gave an order to the advice message (e.g. "hey detachedHead advice,
> tell the user how to create a local branch"), but this one is giving
> an order to the end user, which feels inconsistent.
>
> I do not have a strong objection against giving an order to the
> advice message, as long as it is done consistently.  If we did so,
> the part after the colon would start with "instruct the user ..." or
> "tell the user ..." and the like, and the gist of what this one
> would say would be "shown when it is taking too long: suggest the
> user to consider `-u`".

Yeah, I paused for a minute when writing that. I’ll change to “tell” or
something similar.

> FWIW, my earlier "in order to" took an approach that is different
> from either of the two "giving an order" approaches.  I was trying
> to make the description explain what the message tries to do and/or
> why the message is given (e.g., "shown if it takes too long in order
> to suggest users to consider the -u option").
>
> Thanks.

-- 
Kristoffer Haugsbakk


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-05 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-01 15:38 [PATCH] branch: advise about ref syntax rules Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-01 18:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-01 18:13   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-01 18:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-03 18:58 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] " Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-03 18:58   ` [PATCH v2 1/1] branch: " Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-03 22:42     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-03 22:58       ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-04 22:07     ` [PATCH v3 0/5] " Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-04 22:07       ` [PATCH v3 1/5] t3200: improve test style Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-05  1:25         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-05 10:27           ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-05 16:02             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-04 22:07       ` [PATCH v3 2/5] advice: make all entries stylistically consistent Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-04 23:52         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-05 10:36           ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk [this message]
2024-03-04 22:07       ` [PATCH v3 3/5] advice: use backticks for code Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-04 23:54         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-05 10:29           ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-04 22:07       ` [PATCH v3 4/5] advice: use double quotes for regular quoting Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-04 22:07       ` [PATCH v3 5/5] branch: advise about ref syntax rules Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-05 20:29       ` [PATCH v4 0/5] " Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-05 20:29         ` [PATCH v4 1/5] t3200: improve test style Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-05 20:29         ` [PATCH v4 2/5] advice: make all entries stylistically consistent Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-05 20:29         ` [PATCH v4 3/5] advice: use backticks for verbatim Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-05 20:29         ` [PATCH v4 4/5] advice: use double quotes for regular quoting Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-05 20:29         ` [PATCH v4 5/5] branch: advise about ref syntax rules Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-03 19:10   ` [PATCH v2 0/1] " Kristoffer Haugsbakk

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