Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?

Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?

[Geoffrey Lee]

I'm trying to develop for TortoiseGit on a 64-bit Vista SP1 system,
but I'm having trouble registering the shell extensions with explorer.
I'm hoping somebody else here who has access to 64-bit Vista can tell
me if TortoiseGit runs on their machine? I want to find out if this
problem is only affecting my machine.

http://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/

-Geoffrey Lee

Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?

[Stephen Haberman]

> I'm trying to develop for TortoiseGit on a 64-bit Vista SP1 system,
> but I'm having trouble registering the shell extensions with explorer.
> I'm hoping somebody else here who has access to 64-bit Vista can tell
> me if TortoiseGit runs on their machine?

It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell
extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do
see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2)
that is 32-bit.

I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab
replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs
but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer,
etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get
by with the alt tab replacement.

- Stephen

Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?

[Geoffrey Lee]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman
<stephen@exigencecorp.com> wrote:
> It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell
> extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do
> see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2)
> that is 32-bit.
>
> I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab
> replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs
> but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer,
> etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get
> by with the alt tab replacement.
>
> - Stephen
>

Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell
extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :)

-Geoffrey Lee

Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?

[Johannes Schindelin]

Hi,

On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman
> <stephen@exigencecorp.com> wrote:
> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell
> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do
> > see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2)
> > that is 32-bit.
> >
> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab
> > replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs
> > but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer,
> > etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get
> > by with the alt tab replacement.
> >
> > - Stephen
> >
> 
> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell
> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :)

How could it?  You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the 
same process.  At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK).

Ciao,
Dscho

Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?

[Steven Noonan]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin
<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman
>> <stephen@exigencecorp.com> wrote:
>> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell
>> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do
>> > see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2)
>> > that is 32-bit.
>> >
>> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab
>> > replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs
>> > but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer,
>> > etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get
>> > by with the alt tab replacement.
>> >
>> > - Stephen
>> >
>>
>> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell
>> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :)
>
> How could it?  You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the
> same process.  At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK).
>

Correct, this is also my biggest gripe with how x86_64 is implemented.
Thank you, AMD!

- Steven

Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?

[Johannes Schindelin]

Hi,

On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Steven Noonan wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin
> <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman
> >> <stephen@exigencecorp.com> wrote:
> >> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell 
> >> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I 
> >> > do see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use 
> >> > (Xplorer2) that is 32-bit.
> >> >
> >> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt 
> >> > tab replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit 
> >> > programs but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows 
> >> > Explorer, etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 
> >> > 64-bit, so I get by with the alt tab replacement.
> >>
> >> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell 
> >> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :)
> >
> > How could it?  You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the
> > same process.  At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK).
> 
> Correct, this is also my biggest gripe with how x86_64 is implemented.
> Thank you, AMD!

Come on, at least it is not Itanium.

Ciao,
Dscho

Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?

[Steven Noonan]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Johannes Schindelin
<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Steven Noonan wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin
>> <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman
>> >> <stephen@exigencecorp.com> wrote:
>> >> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell
>> >> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I
>> >> > do see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use
>> >> > (Xplorer2) that is 32-bit.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt
>> >> > tab replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit
>> >> > programs but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows
>> >> > Explorer, etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are
>> >> > 64-bit, so I get by with the alt tab replacement.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell
>> >> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :)
>> >
>> > How could it?  You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the
>> > same process.  At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK).
>>
>> Correct, this is also my biggest gripe with how x86_64 is implemented.
>> Thank you, AMD!
>
> Come on, at least it is not Itanium.
>
True, but x86_64 had so much potential, and Itanium was doomed from the start.

http://www.emulators.com/docs/nx05_vx64.htm -- This guy has it right.

- Steven

Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?

[Geoffrey Lee]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin
<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> How could it?  You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the
> same process.  At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK).

Yeah it seems obvious now, but I had gotten used to 64-bit Windows
being able to run 32-bit apps so seamlessly that I didn't think about
it.

-Geoffrey Lee