git.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Cc: msysgit@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:43:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <867ihgubk5.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: alpine.LSU.1.00.0802071324460.8543@racer.site

Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Luciano Rocha wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 12:55:58PM +0000, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>> 
>> > On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Luciano Rocha wrote:
>> > 
>> > > Why do I have to accept the GPL to install msysgit?
>> > 
>> > Because that's the only license you have to use git.
>> 
>> Again, GPL governs distribution, not use.
>
> The fine points on why installing it onto your computer is not a 
> distribution are just lost on me.

The GPLv3 might explain it better.

> Besides, if you do not like that our installer shows the GPL, just go
> and make your own (but be sure to shell out money to your lawyer of
> choice to confirm that the GPL allows you to do that).
>
> The Git installer of msysGit will always show the GPL, and have the
> user accept it.

What happens if the user does not accept it?  The license explicitly
states

    Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not
    covered by this License; they are outside its scope.  The act of
    running the Program is not restricted, [...]

Obviously, one can't run the program without installing it.  The license
also states:

      5. You are not required to accept this License, since you have not
    signed it.  However, nothing else grants you permission to modify or
    distribute the Program or its derivative works.  These actions are
    prohibited by law if you do not accept this License.  Therefore, by
    modifying or distributing the Program (or any work based on the
    Program), you indicate your acceptance of this License to do so, and
    all its terms and conditions for copying, distributing or modifying
    the Program or works based on it.

Again, only modification and distribution are affected by
non-acceptance.  Talking about unrestricted running of the program would
be utterly non-sensical if you were not allowed to install it.

Of course, you can read this in the GPL FAQ if you want to.  There was a
similar problem for the Windows installer of Emacs IIRC (the underlying
program does not even consider the possibility of not agreeing to a
license) and there were proposals of changing the button texts to "This
is great" and something else.  I don't know what the people converged on
finally, not using Windows myself.

-- 
David Kastrup

  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-07 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-02  4:34 [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4 Junio C Hamano
2008-02-02  9:25 ` Junichi Uekawa
2008-02-02 15:58   ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-03  1:00   ` Junichi Uekawa
2008-02-03  2:14     ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-03  3:16       ` Junichi Uekawa
2008-02-03  3:24         ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-03  3:51           ` Junichi Uekawa
2008-02-03  5:32             ` Christian Couder
2008-02-03 10:50             ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-03 10:38     ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-02-03 12:56       ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-03 15:08       ` Matthieu Moy
2008-02-03 15:34         ` [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4 (git popularity) Jakub Narebski
2008-02-03 19:27         ` [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4 Theodore Tso
2008-02-04 20:35           ` Jari Aalto
2008-02-02  9:45 ` しらいしななこ
2008-02-02 12:11 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-02-02 22:42 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-07 12:31   ` Luciano Rocha
2008-02-07 12:55     ` [msysGit] " Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-07 13:07       ` Luciano Rocha
2008-02-07 13:28         ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-07 13:43           ` David Kastrup [this message]
     [not found]           ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0802071324460.8543-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 13:53             ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-07 17:30             ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]               ` <7v1w7ooes3.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 18:40                 ` Johannes Schindelin
     [not found]                   ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0802071831520.8543-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 18:59                     ` Luciano Rocha
2008-02-07 19:08                       ` [msysGit] " Johannes Schindelin
     [not found]                         ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0802071906120.8543-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 21:02                           ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2008-02-07 19:42                   ` [msysGit] " Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                     ` <7vprv8mu2k.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 19:59                       ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                         ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0802071157360.2896-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 20:58                           ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-08  1:53                             ` [msysGit] " Johannes Schindelin
     [not found]                               ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0802080143440.11591-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-08  9:22                                 ` Schuberth, Sebastian
     [not found]                                   ` <E6DFE65BB5ADFE44BE13CCC976124447D5BCC8-xoGCv1uRt2M6PgvdBIHKsVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-08 11:14                                     ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-07 20:23                       ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-02-07 21:49                         ` [msysGit] " Jonathan del Strother
     [not found]                           ` <57518fd10802071349w50446803q249cbda0e2998bc5-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 22:18                             ` Dmitry Potapov
     [not found]                               ` <20080207221837.GQ30368-EQL4cN526mwi5CQI31g/s0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 22:48                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-07 22:46                   ` Jari Aalto
     [not found]         ` <20080207130715.GA14000-oEplIgxCSygGFt9iVWuREaMaJEuR8uiQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 14:53           ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-02-07 15:59             ` [msysGit] " Luciano Rocha
2008-02-07 16:12               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-02-07 16:21                 ` David Kastrup
     [not found]               ` <20080207155946.GA20459-oEplIgxCSygGFt9iVWuREaMaJEuR8uiQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 16:35                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-02-07 16:41                   ` David Kastrup
     [not found]                   ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0802071133230.2732-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 16:53                     ` Johannes Schindelin
     [not found]                       ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0802071651440.8543-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 18:55                         ` Luciano Rocha
2008-02-07 18:52                   ` [msysGit] " Luciano Rocha
2008-02-07 17:01                 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-07 17:15                   ` David Kastrup
     [not found]             ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0802070949460.2732-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-09  9:25               ` Andreas Ericsson
     [not found]       ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0802071255110.8543-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 13:23         ` Eyvind Bernhardsen
2008-02-07 13:25       ` [msysGit] " David Kastrup
     [not found]         ` <86k5lguce2.fsf-Gv3ZRPJT63HkqtzbHXq1RqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 14:04           ` Michael Poole
2008-02-07 14:29             ` David Kastrup
     [not found]               ` <86tzkksuua.fsf-Gv3ZRPJT63HkqtzbHXq1RqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 16:02                 ` Michael Poole
2008-02-07 16:13                   ` David Kastrup
2008-02-07 18:10       ` [msysGit] " Jari Aalto
     [not found]     ` <20080207123108.GA12009-oEplIgxCSygGFt9iVWuREaMaJEuR8uiQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 19:58       ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-02-03 17:55 ` Dmitry Potapov

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=867ihgubk5.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz \
    --to=dak@gnu.org \
    --cc=git@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=msysgit@googlegroups.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).