From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Subject: Re: Perl version support Date: 23 Nov 2005 11:59:30 -0800 Message-ID: <86br0bm8yl.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <200511231141.57683.lan@ac-sw.com> <7voe4b7uw7.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <7vk6ez7u1y.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <867jazre78.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <7vu0e369p4.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <20051123135604.GB16995@mythryan2.michonline.com> <86mzjvphhj.fsf_-_@blue.stonehenge.com> <7vwtiz4053.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: git@vger.kernel.org X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Wed Nov 23 21:00:00 2005 Return-path: Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ef0mQ-0008PR-Ss for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:59:47 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932270AbVKWT7l (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:59:41 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932279AbVKWT7l (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:59:41 -0500 Received: from blue.stonehenge.com ([209.223.236.162]:38175 "EHLO blue.stonehenge.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932270AbVKWT7k (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:59:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568408F7AC; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (blue.stonehenge.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05866-02-60; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B383E8F7AE; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:59:30 -0800 (PST) To: Junio C Hamano x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.12.14.15; tzolkin = 6 Men; haab = 13 Ceh In-Reply-To: <7vwtiz4053.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: >>>>> "Junio" == Junio C Hamano writes: Junio> I think the target market is people who use whatever POSIXy Junio> systems for their own work. To them, git and its dependencies Junio> are merely tools to get their job done, and while they might be Junio> capable and even willing to match the version requirements if it Junio> is absolutely necessary, they'd rather spend their time on what Junio> they do best (i.e. write software or documentation or whatever, Junio> whose changes are to be managed by git), than installing or Junio> upgrading base software just to satisfy git. And I'd like to Junio> see their time spent on what they do best, instead of caring and Junio> feeding of git, too. Yes, this is why I keep pointing out GNU tools being used instead of POSIXy versions. :) Mostly because they break on either my Darwin laptop or my OpenBSD host server. Junio> So in that sense, excluding 75% of people with "5.8 only" is not Junio> acceptable at all, and covering 75% with "5.6 or better" might Junio> be good enough, at least as a starter. I think we're in agreement. >> If you'd like, I can review all the Perl code with a tool that >> determines the minimum Perl version, and provide patches to bring the >> code to 5.5 level. Junio> If it is not too much trouble, I'd appreciate it, at least the Junio> first half that can be done without taking too much of your time. Junio> Is it a mechanical "lint" like thing, that says "line 47 you Junio> have list form of pipe open -- that's 5.8 and better"? The "perlver" tool installed with the "Perl::MinimumVersion" module from the CPAN will do about 80% of it. The other 20% are things that I can use my brain for. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!