From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Subject: Re: Gitbox Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:13:44 -0700 Message-ID: <86hba1hk9z.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <1302721187.21900.4.camel@drew-northup.unet.maine.edu> <1E5D7DCE-B3B3-4CC7-8F40-4ED48E76907D@gmail.com> <1302722214.22161.5.camel@drew-northup.unet.maine.edu> <86vcyigcqy.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <7vfwpllw5g.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> <1C18B4FB-BB10-4AC7-8952-D477CB4EF289@medialab.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Junio C Hamano , Drew Northup , Joshua Juran , git@vger.kernel.org, oleganza@gmail.com, Chris Perkins To: Daniel Searles X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Apr 14 00:13:59 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QA8Jy-0005fg-9j for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 00:13:58 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933265Ab1DMWNx (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:13:53 -0400 Received: from lax-gw08.mailroute.net ([199.89.0.108]:51177 "EHLO mail.mroute.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933068Ab1DMWNw (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:13:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lax-gw08.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5AF299FAA; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:13:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by lax-gw08.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA8E299FA8; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:13:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7A37118D3; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:13:44 -0700 (PDT) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.18.5.2; tzolkin = 10 Ik; haab = 10 Pop In-Reply-To: <1C18B4FB-BB10-4AC7-8952-D477CB4EF289@medialab.com> (Daniel Searles's message of "Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:56:15 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: >>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Searles writes: Daniel> It seems to me that since gitbox is useless without git it is Daniel> definitely in violation of the GPL. My interpretation of the GPL Daniel> is based off of the following article: Daniel> http://clisp.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/clisp/clisp/doc/Why-CLISP-is-under-GPL And note the author of that opinion, RMS, who would always rule in favor of more things needing to be under the GPL as the One True License. And it's also about readline.a, which *has* to be linked into a binary to make it work. None of the git code is being *linked* in. Particularly, I see this phrase in the actual license of Git (version 2, not version 3 under which Readline is distributed): Thus, it is not the intent of this section to claim rights or contest your rights to work written entirely by you; rather, the intent is to exercise the right to control the distribution of derivative or collective works based on the Program. In addition, mere aggregation of another work not based on the Program with the Program (or with a work based on the Program) on a volume of a storage or distribution medium does not bring the other work under the scope of this License. I'd consider the git binary distribution to be an aggregation with gitbox, not a "linking", presuming that one of the following has also happened: 3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following: a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or, b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or, c) Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer to distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you received the program in object code or executable form with such an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.) I cannot confirm that one of these has been done, but let's say it has. As already said in this thread, if "execve()" is considered a "linking", then *everything* in a typical Linux distro would *have* to be GPL. That's patently not the case. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion