From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] git-svnconvert: YASI (Yet Another SVN importer) Date: 09 Apr 2006 15:06:55 -0700 Message-ID: <86mzeuflog.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <20060409163426.GA22103@nospam.com> <20060409211505.GA30567@nospam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: git@wingding.demon.nl, Jakub Narebski , git@vger.kernel.org X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Apr 10 00:07:35 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSi42-0001Fy-QZ for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:07:23 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750943AbWDIWG7 (ORCPT ); Sun, 9 Apr 2006 18:06:59 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750944AbWDIWG5 (ORCPT ); Sun, 9 Apr 2006 18:06:57 -0400 Received: from blue.stonehenge.com ([209.223.236.162]:47980 "EHLO blue.stonehenge.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750942AbWDIWG5 (ORCPT ); Sun, 9 Apr 2006 18:06:57 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940D38F2A6; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 15:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (blue.stonehenge.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12162-01-4; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 15:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1CC978F2A9; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 15:06:56 -0700 (PDT) To: Johannes Schindelin x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.13.3.12; tzolkin = 13 Eb; haab = 5 Pop In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: >>>>> "Johannes" == Johannes Schindelin writes: Johannes> I have _never_ seen a setup where Ruby was installed by Johannes> default. Perl always, Python often. OSX includes ruby by default. Johannes> Furthermore, my feeling is that we are in the beginning phase of Johannes> migration from scripting languages (which are good for prototyping) Johannes> towards plain C. So adding yet another scripting language Johannes> dependency is a little backwards. You seem a bit prejudiced here. Are there performance problems in the Perl and python parts of git? If so, concentrate first on optimizing the code where it matters. Then, creating bindings to the "git lib" so that the heavy lifting can be done in C while still providing for the basic algorithms to be written in a higher level language. It would be a step *backwards* to recode all of git in C. Now, the *shell* parts, on the other hand, are screaming for a rewrite into Perl or Python. fork-fork-fork and worrying about escaping special characters needlessly burns a lot of cpu and programmer time. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!