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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Cc: "Derrick Stolee" <dstolee@microsoft.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 10/10] commit-graph.txt: update design document
Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 09:57:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86o9hy1ocm.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2ea2c1d0-e2ad-2051-ba98-1584fcb51a46@gmail.com> (Derrick Stolee's message of "Tue, 1 May 2018 08:00:51 -0400")

Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com> writes:

> On 4/30/2018 7:32 PM, Jakub Narebski wrote:
>> Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com> writes:
[...]
>>>   - After computing and storing generation numbers, we must make graph
>>>     walks aware of generation numbers to gain the performance benefits they
>>>     enable. This will mostly be accomplished by swapping a commit-date-ordered
>>>     priority queue with one ordered by generation number. The following
>>> -  operations are important candidates:
>>> +  operation is an important candidate:
>>>   -    - paint_down_to_common()
>>>       - 'log --topo-order'
>>
>> Another possible candidates:
>>
>>         - remove_redundant() - see comment in previous patch
>>         - still_interesting() - where Git uses date slop to stop walking
>>           too far
>
> remove_redundant() will be included in v5, thanks.

Oh.  Nice.

I'll try to review the new patch in detail soon.

> Instead of "still_interesting()" I'll add "git tag --merged" as the
> candidate to consider, as discussed in [1].
>
> [1] https://public-inbox.org/git/87fu3g67ry.fsf@lant.ki.iif.hu/t/#u
>     "branch --contains / tag --merged inconsistency"

All right.  I have mentioned still_interesting() as a hint where
possible additional generation numbers based optimization may lurk
(because that's where heuristic based on dates is used - similarly to
how it was done in this series with paint_down_to_common()).

[...]
>> One important issue left is handling features that change view of
>> project history, and their interaction with commit-graph feature.
>>
>> What would happen, if we turn on commit-graph feature, generate commit
>> graph file, and then:
>>
>>    * use graft file or remove graft entries to cut history, or remove cut
>>      or join two [independent] histories.
>>    * use git-replace mechanims to do the same
>>    * in shallow clone, deepen or shorten the clone
>>
>> What would happen if without re-generating commit-graph file (assuming
>> tha Git wouldn't do it for us), we run some feature that makes use of
>> commit-graph data:
>>
>>    - git branch --contains
>>    - git tag --contains
>>    - git rev-list A..B
>>
>
> The commit-graph is not supported in these scenarios (yet). grafts are
> specifically mentioned in the future work section.
>
> I'm not particularly interested in supporting these features, so they
> are good venues for other contributors to get involved in the
> commit-graph feature. Eventually, they will be blockers to making the
> commit-graph feature a "default" feature. That is when I will pay
> attention to these situations. For now, a user must opt-in to having a
> commit-graph file (and that same user has possibly opted in to these
> history modifying features).

Well, that is sensible approach.  Get commit-graph features in working
condition, and worry about beng able to make it on by default later.

Nice to have it clarified.  I'll stop nagging about that, then ;-P

One issue: 'grafts' are mentioned in the future work section of the
technical documentation, but we don't have *any* warning about
commit-graph limitations in user-facing documentation, that is
git-commit-graph(1) manpage.

Best,
-- 
Jakub Narębski

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-02  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-03 16:51 [PATCH 0/6] Compute and consume generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 16:51 ` [PATCH 1/6] object.c: parse commit in graph first Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:21   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-03 18:28     ` Jeff King
2018-04-03 18:32       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 16:51 ` [PATCH 2/6] commit: add generation number to struct commmit Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:05   ` Brandon Williams
2018-04-03 18:28     ` Jeff King
2018-04-03 18:31       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:32       ` Brandon Williams
2018-04-03 18:44       ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-03 23:17       ` Ramsay Jones
2018-04-03 23:19         ` Jeff King
2018-04-03 18:24   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-03 16:51 ` [PATCH 3/6] commit-graph: compute generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:30   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-03 18:49     ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-03 16:51 ` [PATCH 4/6] commit: use generations in paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:31   ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-03 18:31   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-03 16:51 ` [PATCH 5/6] commit.c: use generation to halt paint walk Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 19:01   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-03 16:51 ` [PATCH 6/6] commit-graph.txt: update future work Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 19:04   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-03 16:56 ` [PATCH 0/6] Compute and consume generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:03 ` Brandon Williams
2018-04-03 18:29   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-03 18:47     ` Jeff King
2018-04-03 19:05       ` Jeff King
2018-04-04 15:45         ` [PATCH 7/6] ref-filter: use generation number for --contains Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 15:45           ` [PATCH 8/6] commit: use generation numbers for in_merge_bases() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 15:48             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 17:01               ` Brandon Williams
2018-04-04 18:24               ` Jeff King
2018-04-04 18:53                 ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 18:59                   ` Jeff King
2018-04-04 18:22           ` [PATCH 7/6] ref-filter: use generation number for --contains Jeff King
2018-04-04 19:06             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 19:16               ` Jeff King
2018-04-04 19:22                 ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 19:42                   ` Jeff King
2018-04-04 19:45                     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-04 19:46                       ` Jeff King
2018-04-07 17:09     ` [PATCH 0/6] Compute and consume generation numbers Jakub Narebski
2018-04-07 16:55 ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-08  1:06   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-11 19:32     ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-11 19:58       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-14 16:52         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-21 20:44           ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-23 13:54             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:41 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:41   ` [PATCH v2 01/10] object.c: parse commit in graph first Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:41   ` [PATCH v2 02/10] merge: check config before loading commits Derrick Stolee
2018-04-11  2:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-11 12:49       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 03/10] commit: add generation number to struct commmit Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 17:59     ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-11  2:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-11 12:57       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-11 23:28         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 04/10] commit-graph: compute generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-11  2:51     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-11 13:02       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-11 18:49         ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-11 19:26         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 05/10] commit: use generations in paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 06/10] commit.c: use generation to halt paint walk Derrick Stolee
2018-04-11  3:02     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-11 13:24       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 07/10] commit-graph.txt: update future work Derrick Stolee
2018-04-12  9:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-12 11:35       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-13  9:53         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 08/10] ref-filter: use generation number for --contains Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 09/10] commit: use generation numbers for in_merge_bases() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-09 16:42   ` [PATCH v2 10/10] commit: add short-circuit to paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00   ` [PATCH v3 0/9] Compute and consume generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 1/9] commit: add generation number to struct commmit Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 2/9] commit-graph: compute generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 3/9] commit: use generations in paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-18 14:31       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-18 14:46         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 4/9] commit-graph.txt: update design document Derrick Stolee
2018-04-18 19:47       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 5/9] ref-filter: use generation number for --contains Derrick Stolee
2018-04-18 21:02       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-23 14:22         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-24 18:56           ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:11             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 6/9] commit: use generation numbers for in_merge_bases() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-18 22:15       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-23 14:31         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 7/9] commit: add short-circuit to paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-18 23:19       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-23 14:40         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-23 21:38           ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-24 12:31             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-19  8:32       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 8/9] commit-graph: always load commit-graph information Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:50       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-19  0:02       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-23 14:49         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 9/9] merge: check config before loading commits Derrick Stolee
2018-04-19  0:04     ` [PATCH v3 0/9] Compute and consume generation numbers Jakub Narebski
2018-04-23 14:54       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-25 14:37     ` [PATCH v4 00/10] " Derrick Stolee
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 01/10] ref-filter: fix outdated comment on in_commit_list Derrick Stolee
2018-04-28 17:54         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 02/10] commit: add generation number to struct commmit Derrick Stolee
2018-04-28 22:35         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-30 12:05           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 03/10] commit-graph: compute generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-26  2:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-26 12:58           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-26 13:49             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-29  9:08         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 12:10           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-02 16:15             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 04/10] commit: use generations in paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-26  3:22         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-26  9:02           ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-28 14:38             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-29 15:40         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 06/10] ref-filter: use generation number for --contains Derrick Stolee
2018-04-30 16:34         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 05/10] commit-graph: always load commit-graph information Derrick Stolee
2018-04-29 22:14         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 12:19           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-29 22:18         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:37       ` [PATCH v4 07/10] commit: use generation numbers for in_merge_bases() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-30 17:05         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:38       ` [PATCH v4 08/10] commit: add short-circuit to paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-04-30 22:19         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 11:47           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-02 13:05             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-02 13:42               ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-25 14:38       ` [PATCH v4 09/10] merge: check config before loading commits Derrick Stolee
2018-04-30 22:54         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 11:52           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-02 11:41             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-25 14:38       ` [PATCH v4 10/10] commit-graph.txt: update design document Derrick Stolee
2018-04-30 23:32         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 12:00           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-02  7:57             ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2018-04-25 14:40       ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Compute and consume generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-04-28 17:28         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 12:47       ` [PATCH v5 00/11] " Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 01/11] ref-filter: fix outdated comment on in_commit_list Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 02/11] commit: add generation number to struct commmit Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 03/11] commit-graph: compute generation numbers Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 04/11] commit: use generations in paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 05/11] commit-graph: always load commit-graph information Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 06/11] ref-filter: use generation number for --contains Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 07/11] commit: use generation numbers for in_merge_bases() Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 08/11] commit: add short-circuit to paint_down_to_common() Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 09/11] commit: use generation number in remove_redundant() Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 15:37           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-03 18:45           ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 10/11] merge: check config before loading commits Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:47         ` [PATCH v5 11/11] commit-graph.txt: update design document Derrick Stolee
2018-05-03 11:18         ` [PATCH v5 00/11] Compute and consume generation numbers Jakub Narebski

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