From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jari Aalto Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/5] Patches to avoid reporting conversion changes. Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:02:09 +0300 Organization: Private Message-ID: <874ojbqnry.fsf@jondo.cante.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To: git@vger.kernel.org X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri Apr 16 20:02:30 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O2ps3-0000LG-Dg for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:02:27 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757921Ab0DPSCW (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:02:22 -0400 Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:41054 "EHLO lo.gmane.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757785Ab0DPSCV (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:02:21 -0400 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O2prv-0000HW-VP for git@vger.kernel.org; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:02:19 +0200 Received: from a91-155-187-216.elisa-laajakaista.fi ([91.155.187.216]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:02:19 +0200 Received: from jari.aalto by a91-155-187-216.elisa-laajakaista.fi with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:02:19 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ connect(): No such file or directory X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: a91-155-187-216.elisa-laajakaista.fi User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7ru2FlM1O5G1fRK3NBZ54fURFYo= Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes: >>>>>> "Jari" == Jari Aalto writes: > > Jari> It would be interesting to know why not. These magic variables are hard > Jari> to read and remember without consulting the manual pages. > > Because it was observed over time that the aliases were *also* hard to > remember without consulting the manpages. :) > > So you were merely trading one problem for another, and since far more > code is out there that does *not* use English than does, we agreed that > use English was an interesting but failed experiment. Who found out? In what study? Honestly, that's not believable. There is no way reading the most common alphabetic variables would not be readable over puctuation: $OUTPUT_AUTOFLUSH = 1; if ( $OS_ERROR ) ... if ( $EVAL_ERROR ) ... open(...) or die "$ERRNO" Versus: $| = 1; if ($?) ... if ($@) ... open(...) or die $! It *may* be the case with exotic (seldomly used) ones, but they are even more exotic in they short form: print $^V; Eh? print $PERL_VERSION; I compute sir, Jari