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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, gitster@pobox.com, Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/8] sparse-checkout: add --verbose option to 'clean'
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 10:06:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <879b6673-1af9-4bb3-add3-a61c87d98777@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BFaPG1YpGOcTm=aX6n1XZ3upQ4iYB=nNND4bvsNZ=CqqQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/5/25 6:22 PM, Elijah Newren wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 6:34 PM Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
> <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
>>
>> The 'git sparse-checkout clean' subcommand is focused on directories,
>> deleting any tracked sparse directories to clean up the worktree and
>> make the sparse index feature work optimally.
>>
>> However, this directory-focused approach can leave users wondering why
>> those directories exist at all. In my experience, these files are left
>> over due to ignore or exclude patterns, Windows file handles, or
>> possibly merge conflict resolutions.
> 
> Seems reasonable.  And based on your previous testcases, it might not
> even be merge conflict resolutions, but just someone placing a
> (possibly-modified) copy of a tracked file back into the directory.
> 
> (I've seen folks do that, so it's not "just" your testcase doing
> something unusual.)
> 
>> Add a new '--verbose' option for users to see all the files that are
>> being deleted (with '--force') or would be deleted (with '--dry-run').
> 
> Does that answer the users' question?  You said above in your
> experience it came from a few different reasons; will users want to
> know which reason(s) for which files, or will they only want to know
> the files that are present?

I've had users asking for answers to both of these questions:

  1. What files will this remove? (I want to make sure it won't remove
     something I care about.)

  2. What files were causing my sparse index to expand? (I want to
     understand how my workflow impacts this behavior.)

> You stated in the commit message that "users wonder...why those
> directories exist at all."  Presuming that listing files is sufficient
> to answer those users questions, this patch looks good to me.  I'm
> unsure if that answers the question, or if some kind of classification
> of the files would also be wanted (ignored, untracked, conflicted,
> tracked-with-unstaged-changes, tracked-wtih-no-changes,
> tracked-with-staged-changes).  Maybe the answer is we start with this
> and wait for user feedback and only add more if there's demand, but if
> so it might be nice to state as much in the commit message.

Sounds like a plan. This verbose output is intended to be human-
readable and can easily be expanded in the future.

Thanks,
-Stolee


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-11 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-08 11:19 [PATCH 0/3] sparse-checkout: add 'clean' command Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-07-08 11:19 ` [PATCH 1/3] sparse-checkout: remove use of the_repository Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-07-08 20:49   ` Elijah Newren
2025-07-08 20:59   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-08 11:19 ` [PATCH 2/3] sparse-checkout: add 'clean' command Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-07-08 12:15   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-08 20:30     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-08 21:20   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-09 14:39     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-07-09 16:46       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-08 21:43   ` Elijah Newren
2025-07-09 16:13     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-07-09 17:35       ` Elijah Newren
2025-07-15 13:38         ` Derrick Stolee
2025-07-15 17:17           ` Elijah Newren
2025-07-08 11:19 ` [PATCH 3/3] sparse-index: point users to new 'clean' action Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-07-08 21:45   ` Elijah Newren
2025-07-08 12:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] sparse-checkout: add 'clean' command Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-08 20:36 ` Elijah Newren
2025-07-08 22:01   ` Elijah Newren
2025-07-08 23:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-09 15:41   ` Derrick Stolee
2025-07-17  1:34 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-07-17  1:34   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] sparse-checkout: remove use of the_repository Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-07-17  1:34   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] sparse-checkout: add basics of 'clean' command Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-08-05 21:32     ` Elijah Newren
2025-09-11 13:37       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-07-17  1:34   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] sparse-checkout: match some 'clean' behavior Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-08-05 22:06     ` Elijah Newren
2025-09-11 13:52       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-07-17  1:34   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] dir: add generic "walk all files" helper Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-08-05 22:22     ` Elijah Newren
2025-07-17  1:34   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] sparse-checkout: add --verbose option to 'clean' Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-08-05 22:22     ` Elijah Newren
2025-09-11 14:06       ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2025-07-17  1:34   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] sparse-index: point users to new 'clean' action Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-07-17  1:34   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] t: expand tests around sparse merges and clean Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-07-17  1:34   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] sparse-checkout: make 'clean' clear more files Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-08-06  0:21     ` Elijah Newren
2025-09-11 15:26       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-09-11 16:21         ` Derrick Stolee
2025-08-28 23:22   ` [PATCH v2 0/8] sparse-checkout: add 'clean' command Junio C Hamano
2025-08-29  0:15     ` Elijah Newren
2025-08-29  0:27       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-29 21:03         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-30 13:41           ` Derrick Stolee
2025-09-12 10:30   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-09-12 10:30     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] sparse-checkout: remove use of the_repository Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-09-12 10:30     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] sparse-checkout: add basics of 'clean' command Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-10-07 22:49       ` Elijah Newren
2025-10-20 14:16         ` Derrick Stolee
2025-09-12 10:30     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] sparse-checkout: match some 'clean' behavior Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-09-12 10:30     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] dir: add generic "walk all files" helper Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-09-12 10:30     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] sparse-checkout: add --verbose option to 'clean' Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-09-15 18:09       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-09-15 19:12         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-16  2:00           ` Derrick Stolee
2025-09-12 10:30     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] sparse-index: point users to new 'clean' action Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-10-07 22:53       ` Elijah Newren
2025-10-20 14:17         ` Derrick Stolee
2025-09-12 10:30     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] t: expand tests around sparse merges and clean Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-09-12 16:12     ` [PATCH v3 0/7] sparse-checkout: add 'clean' command Junio C Hamano
2025-09-26 13:40       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-09-26 18:58         ` Elijah Newren
2025-10-07 23:07     ` Elijah Newren
2025-10-20 14:25       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-10-20 14:24     ` [PATCH 8/8] sparse-index: improve advice message instructions Derrick Stolee
2025-10-20 16:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-24  2:22       ` Elijah Newren

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