From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.176.0/21 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: Carl Worth Subject: Re: Cleaning up git user-interface warts Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:36:21 -0800 Message-ID: <87r6w4s5ga.wl%cworth@cworth.org> References: <87k61yt1x2.wl%cworth@cworth.org> <7vbqn8o9st.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <200611151902.16358.andyparkins@gmail.com> <7vr6w4lcpr.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <87y7qcsbsa.wl%cworth@cworth.org> <7vmz6sjtw8.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="pgp-sign-Multipart_Wed_Nov_15_14:36:21_2006-1"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andy Parkins , git@vger.kernel.org Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org In-Reply-To: <7vmz6sjtw8.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/21.4 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkTNR-0008Oe-KA for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:37:05 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1162012AbWKOWhA (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:37:00 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1162013AbWKOWhA (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:37:00 -0500 Received: from theworths.org ([217.160.253.102]:38557 "EHLO theworths.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1162012AbWKOWg7 (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:36:59 -0500 Received: (qmail 20921 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2006 17:36:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (HELO raht.cworth.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Nov 2006 17:36:37 -0500 To: Junio C Hamano Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org --pgp-sign-Multipart_Wed_Nov_15_14:36:21_2006-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:13:11 -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote: > That is a very fine example, but I do not see why it is a > problem. I do not think the goal of Porcelain is to make it > totally unnecessary for users to know about the plumbing. If not, then the promise of the porcelain fails. If cogito offers "Here are 40 commands so you don't have to learn git's 140" and then next says "Oh, and you'll still want to learn all those git commands too", then its existence only makes the "too much stuff to learn" problem worse, not better. But I think you agree with me (for now) that fixing the git UI should not involve creating a new primary command to replace "git". -Carl --pgp-sign-Multipart_Wed_Nov_15_14:36:21_2006-1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBFW5Zl6JDdNq8qSWgRAiRcAJ4y56C86rlJa6h69O3r5Lqx007wtACff6dd Pi/mI0T+gkizmXPYRPbOWys= =WMSv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----