From: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms-D+Gtc/HYRWM@public.gmane.org>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Luciano Rocha <luciano-YWehAnL2kLNBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Steffen Prohaska <prohaska-wjoc1KHpMeg@public.gmane.org>,
Git Mailing List <git-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
msysGit <msysgit-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:02:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y79wa3a5.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.1.00.0802071906120.8543-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org> (Johannes Schindelin's message of "Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:08:26 +0000 (GMT)")
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org> writes:
> Hi,
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Luciano Rocha wrote:
>> I was asking for the reasons for the installer being like it is, not for
>> you to change your mind.
> I am sorry: I misunderstood.
> Two reasons: we stay on the safe side (because no lawyer could now
> possible say that we forgot to present the license), and we want to give
> the Git installer some "professional" look-and-feel ;-)
It is not unreasonable, I suppose, to display the license text in the
installer program, though I think it is sufficient to provide the
license in a simple LICENSE file, and it is hard to imagine anyone
actually wanting to read the license text while installing git.
I think it is not a good idea for a nice free software program like git
to show license text in a click-wrap way, as that will only give
credence to click-wrap licenses.
As far as the "professional" look and feel, rather than make git seem
more like the usual proprietary program (if you wanted to go that route,
perhaps you should bundle a root kit/"copy protection
mechanism"/adware/spyware like companies will often do :) ), I'd suggest
making it seem much _better_ than the usual proprietary program: the
user can look at the opportunity to install a program without having to
"agree" to onerous terms as a breath of fresh air.
As has been mentioned, installing and running the program is permitted
by fair use, and thus assuming he already has a copy of the software,
legally there is no need for the user to agree to any additional terms
before using the software. The traditional EULA attempts to use
technical means to prevent the user from exercising his fair use rights;
in particular, it attempts to force the user to agree to certain terms
for essentially no compensation, as he already has fair use permission
to use the software anyway. Naturally, such use of technical means is
completely antithetical to the idea of free software.
--
Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-07 21:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-02 4:34 [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4 Junio C Hamano
2008-02-02 9:25 ` Junichi Uekawa
2008-02-02 15:58 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-03 1:00 ` Junichi Uekawa
2008-02-03 2:14 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-03 3:16 ` Junichi Uekawa
2008-02-03 3:24 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-03 3:51 ` Junichi Uekawa
2008-02-03 5:32 ` Christian Couder
2008-02-03 10:50 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-03 10:38 ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-02-03 12:56 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-03 15:08 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-02-03 15:34 ` [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4 (git popularity) Jakub Narebski
2008-02-03 19:27 ` [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4 Theodore Tso
2008-02-04 20:35 ` Jari Aalto
2008-02-02 9:45 ` しらいしななこ
2008-02-02 12:11 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-02-02 22:42 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-07 12:31 ` Luciano Rocha
2008-02-07 12:55 ` [msysGit] " Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-07 13:07 ` Luciano Rocha
2008-02-07 13:28 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-07 13:43 ` David Kastrup
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0802071324460.8543-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 13:53 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-07 17:30 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <7v1w7ooes3.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 18:40 ` Johannes Schindelin
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0802071831520.8543-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 18:59 ` Luciano Rocha
2008-02-07 19:08 ` [msysGit] " Johannes Schindelin
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0802071906120.8543-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 21:02 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard [this message]
2008-02-07 19:42 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <7vprv8mu2k.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 19:59 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0802071157360.2896-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 20:58 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-08 1:53 ` [msysGit] " Johannes Schindelin
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0802080143440.11591-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-08 9:22 ` Schuberth, Sebastian
[not found] ` <E6DFE65BB5ADFE44BE13CCC976124447D5BCC8-xoGCv1uRt2M6PgvdBIHKsVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-08 11:14 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-07 20:23 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-02-07 21:49 ` [msysGit] " Jonathan del Strother
[not found] ` <57518fd10802071349w50446803q249cbda0e2998bc5-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 22:18 ` Dmitry Potapov
[not found] ` <20080207221837.GQ30368-EQL4cN526mwi5CQI31g/s0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 22:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-07 22:46 ` Jari Aalto
[not found] ` <20080207130715.GA14000-oEplIgxCSygGFt9iVWuREaMaJEuR8uiQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 14:53 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-02-07 15:59 ` [msysGit] " Luciano Rocha
2008-02-07 16:12 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-02-07 16:21 ` David Kastrup
[not found] ` <20080207155946.GA20459-oEplIgxCSygGFt9iVWuREaMaJEuR8uiQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 16:35 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-02-07 16:41 ` David Kastrup
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0802071133230.2732-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 16:53 ` Johannes Schindelin
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0802071651440.8543-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 18:55 ` Luciano Rocha
2008-02-07 18:52 ` [msysGit] " Luciano Rocha
2008-02-07 17:01 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-02-07 17:15 ` David Kastrup
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0802070949460.2732-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-09 9:25 ` Andreas Ericsson
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0802071255110.8543-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 13:23 ` Eyvind Bernhardsen
2008-02-07 13:25 ` [msysGit] " David Kastrup
[not found] ` <86k5lguce2.fsf-Gv3ZRPJT63HkqtzbHXq1RqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 14:04 ` Michael Poole
2008-02-07 14:29 ` David Kastrup
[not found] ` <86tzkksuua.fsf-Gv3ZRPJT63HkqtzbHXq1RqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 16:02 ` Michael Poole
2008-02-07 16:13 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-07 18:10 ` [msysGit] " Jari Aalto
[not found] ` <20080207123108.GA12009-oEplIgxCSygGFt9iVWuREaMaJEuR8uiQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-07 19:58 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-02-03 17:55 ` Dmitry Potapov
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