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From: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
To: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, gitster@pobox.com,
	sandals@crustytoothpaste.net, lenaic@lhuard.fr
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] maintenance: add get_random_minute()
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 13:28:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8854e369-fabb-4044-a06c-eaf5b9fbde4a@github.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNFgIyuhlNd8I9Y2@nand.local>

On 8/7/2023 5:20 PM, Taylor Blau wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 06:51:35PM +0000, Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget wrote:

>> +	if (!random_initialized) {
>> +		srand((unsigned int)getpid());
>> +		random_initialized = 1;
>> +	}
> 
> I was wondering where else we call srand() within Git, and it looks like
> the only other spot is in `lock_file_timeout()`.
> 
> I doubt it, but is there a chance that that code depends on only calling
> srand() once? I think the answer is "no", since we only use rand()
> within that function to generate a random-ish backoff period, so I think
> the repeatability of it doesn't matter all that much.

The main point would be to avoid the cost of spinning up the number
generator, but there is potential for a bug if we run both initializers:
the lockfile would re-use the same filenames after the generator is
reset.

> So I think this is kind of outside the scope of your series, but I
> wonder if we should have a git_rand() that automatically initializes the
> PRNG with the value of getpid()? Then multiple callers can grab random
> values at will without reinitializing the PRNG.

I see you're moving ahead with removing the srand() from the lockfile code,
so I'll focus on creating a `git_rand()` that centralizes the use of
srand(), but won't touch the code in the lockfile so your patch applies
independently.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-08 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-07 18:51 [PATCH 0/6] maintenance: schedule maintenance on a random minute Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 1/6] maintenance: add get_random_minute() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 21:20   ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-07 23:53     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-08  0:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-08 14:48         ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-08 16:34           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-08 16:49             ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-08 20:01               ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-08 17:28     ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2023-08-08 20:04       ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-09 12:17         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-09 18:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-09 20:34             ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 2/6] maintenance: use random minute in launchctl scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 21:23   ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 3/6] maintenance: use random minute in Windows scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 4/6] maintenance: use random minute in cron scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 5/6] maintenance: swap method locations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 21:24   ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-07 18:51 ` [PATCH 6/6] maintenance: use random minute in systemd scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-07 21:31   ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-08 13:49     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-08 20:05       ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-08  9:53   ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-08 13:03     ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-08 13:56     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-08 17:24       ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-09 10:03         ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-08 12:08   ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-08 17:06     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-08 17:14       ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-09 10:00         ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-10 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] maintenance: schedule maintenance on a random minute Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] maintenance: add get_random_minute() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 21:25     ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] maintenance: use random minute in launchctl scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] maintenance: use random minute in Windows scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] maintenance: use random minute in cron scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] maintenance: swap method locations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] maintenance: use random minute in systemd scheduler Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-14 11:26     ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] maintenance: fix systemd schedule overlaps Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-10 21:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-14 11:27     ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-10 20:39   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] maintenance: update schedule before config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2023-08-14 11:28     ` Phillip Wood

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