From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: David Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>,
Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [doc] User Manual Suggestion
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:35:38 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <94a0d4530904250335w7a88c4d6lafd12a8ce6f98127@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090424185208.GM17365@fieldses.org>
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:52 PM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> That would be great, thanks. Several people have gone off and posted
> their own tutorials someplace, and that's fine, but it would be
> especially helpful if you could contribute to the actual Documentation/
> directory. That may mean arguing with people and making compromises.
> But it also means the results will be distributed with git, will be
> integrated with other git documentation, and will get first-class
> technical review.
>
> I'd also encourage incrementally improving existing documentation where
> possible instead of starting over from scratch. But having broken that
> rule myself a couple times I'm hardly in a position to insist. If you
> must start over, at least think about how to replace or fit it in with
> existing documentation.
People will continue to write git documentation from scratch because
there is a huge gap from the top-bottom approach to a point where you
actually "get git", and people are trying to find short-cuts so that
other people can really get it too.
I spent years using git simply repeating the templates I had seen in
multiple places until I stumbled upon "git from the bottom up" and
then I finally understood the beauty and simplicity of git's design.
From that point I understood why many command didn't do what I
expected.
Note that "bottom" doesn't mean plumbing, the "plumbing" is usually
referred to the git.git tools, but you can work with git low-level
objects through your own implementation as people like Scott Chacon
have indeed done (git-ruby). "bottom" then means git basic building
blocks: blobs, trees, commits, refs.
Ideally the UI should expose the basic concepts of git, but instead
its is hiding them, so no wonder people *need* special documentation
to 'understand git conceptually', or learn 'git from the bottom up',
etc.
--
Felipe Contreras
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-25 10:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-22 19:38 [doc] User Manual Suggestion David Abrahams
2009-04-23 17:57 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-23 18:37 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-23 20:16 ` Jeff King
2009-04-23 20:45 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-23 21:31 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 0:31 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 14:18 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 14:20 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-24 17:28 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 18:15 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 19:00 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 20:24 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 21:06 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 22:45 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-25 0:39 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-26 23:35 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-24 14:11 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 14:30 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 14:33 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 15:04 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 15:18 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 17:38 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-24 18:27 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 18:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <34BD51FF-0908-48A8-BBBC-E27B0EFB32E5@boostpro.com>
2009-04-24 18:52 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-25 10:35 ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2009-04-24 19:12 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-23 21:26 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-23 22:51 ` Johan Herland
2009-04-24 0:30 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 20:30 ` Johan Herland
2009-04-24 21:34 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-04-24 21:38 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 22:18 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 22:25 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 23:11 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-04-24 23:14 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 23:18 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 23:31 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 23:35 ` Jeff King
2009-04-25 0:19 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25 10:18 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-04-24 23:26 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25 18:55 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-04-25 19:16 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25 19:24 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-04-25 19:36 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-25 20:53 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-04-26 11:28 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-26 13:55 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-26 17:56 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-26 20:17 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-26 22:25 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-27 1:41 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-27 16:30 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-27 16:52 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-26 16:36 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-26 18:12 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-26 20:20 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-25 0:41 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 23:16 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-25 0:01 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25 0:48 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-26 22:42 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-02 15:53 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-02 18:36 ` Michael Witten
2009-05-02 21:11 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-02 23:13 ` Michael Witten
2009-05-02 23:32 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-03 1:10 ` Michael Witten
2009-05-03 1:48 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-03 1:18 ` Mark Lodato
2009-05-03 1:26 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 23:21 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-04-24 23:25 ` Jeff King
2009-04-26 23:41 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-24 23:29 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-27 0:00 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-25 0:19 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-25 0:26 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25 0:35 ` Jeff King
2009-04-25 0:53 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-29 6:34 ` Jeff King
2009-04-29 13:27 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-29 14:05 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 2:29 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-24 2:34 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 4:06 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 14:10 ` J. Bruce Fields
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