From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Felipe Contreras Subject: Re: [RFC] Git User's Survey 2009 - second trial run, and question about announcing it Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 23:12:57 +0300 Message-ID: <94a0d4530907051312u1c4bc811i4015b1eb753a8b1e@mail.gmail.com> References: <200907030130.24417.jnareb@gmail.com> <7vprcfj83z.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> <94a0d4530907051215h755f634bkfd043d88289df29e@mail.gmail.com> <200907052145.27995.jnareb@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org, Elijah Newren To: Jakub Narebski X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Jul 05 22:13:16 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MNY5L-0000mw-IG for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:13:16 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753983AbZGEUM7 convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Jul 2009 16:12:59 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756051AbZGEUM5 (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Jul 2009 16:12:57 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.152]:63525 "EHLO fg-out-1718.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755371AbZGEUMz convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Jul 2009 16:12:55 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so1082488fga.17 for ; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:12:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mlSRfvx5I9Zw+HHQchRF4ZbnvDn4hXlLS59Rw/FTCWM=; b=P5qgGkply/sN2y8+YlueBSYnQj6lZJPgBYltBtYKoR94eMCirB5wJIYSQD9XgqB8kD YLUk2b5PDhYDD9DwZ0gPvYDyB7s1pvJXZkNXCUPhANL51e3DfoqPA0ZbRbbdUcPHMJz0 5qsXDaVgd8uFOJ/lQFqy67unZ3wU8aqt3qRQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q8edGF4Lbgbg+qwWn6kcEuEy5t6XQc7JuPWsXmDEVXG1dlnFUl0kNOHIxI9qa9c2Iw 7KXEVNRvrKVHXqRxAC3HF9aMVhtmGCXUB5LVwKPwDdctDyFnsBapbwKcUIRMQQEc1TrF e7SLNbASjnBOiDSO9RNZaehgEStJieWKdLbKU= Received: by 10.86.25.19 with SMTP id 19mr1771614fgy.71.1246824777354; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:12:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907052145.27995.jnareb@gmail.com> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Jakub Narebski wrote= : > On Sun, 5 July 2009, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Junio C Hamano wr= ote: >>> Felipe Contreras writes: > >>>> I guess Junio's blog is the most official one ATM,... >>> >>> Sorry, don't. >>> >>> =C2=A0- Even if you are pretending to be a git community member, yo= u are merely >>> =C2=A0 a phoney if you are not reading it. >>> >>> =C2=A0- If you want to be up-to-date with what is happening in the = community, >>> =C2=A0 you should be reading it. =C2=A0Any important announcement a= lways will >>> =C2=A0 appear there. >>> >>> That would be an official blog. =C2=A0I do not use mine that way, a= nd nobody >>> has to follow it in order to function better in the git land. >>> >>> It's like expecting Linus to announce the kernel release in his blo= g. >>> >>> Not going to happen. =C2=A0The official channel of this community h= as always >>> been this list. >>> >>> I'm OK if somebody declares that he will use his blog to relay impo= rtant >>> announcements from this list, to help blog minded people to follow = it >>> instead of reading the list. > > There is always http://gitrss.q42.co.uk/announce.rss which extracts > "[ANNOUNCE]" emails from git mailing list into an RSS feed, for those > who prefer this way of watching for git news. That's nice, although relatively unknown it seems. >>> But that won't be me. >> >> I know there's no official git blog, I've tried to change that, but = so >> far that hasn't happened. IMHO for now the most popular git blog(s) >> should announce the survey, I'll announce it at gitlog.wordpress.com >> but it is far from being popular. >> >> I understand your position for not making your personal blog the >> official one; I wouldn't do that on my personal blog either >> (felipec.wordpress.com) that's why I created a separate blog for tha= t, >> where you, or anyone else, can do official git posts instead of on >> their personal blog. > > It's just that somehow for "Git Development Community" a mailing list > is enough. =C2=A0We don't have official git blog, we don't have bugtr= acker > (issue tracker). =C2=A0At the beginning git didn't even had _homepage= _. How do you know that? Have you already asked that question in a survey already? ;) As an experiment I added http://gitrss.q42.co.uk/announce.rss to my Google Reader, and through some tricks you can actually see how many people are subscribed to that feed: 26. For reference gitlog.wordpress.com has 28, and Planet IM, a relatively unknown planet: 844. And I have many friends who don't follow git's mailing list, so no, I don't think a mailing list is enough for official announcements. It would be interesting to clone http://gitrss.q42.co.uk/announce.rss into gitlog.wordpress.com... I'll see if I can find a way to do that :) > A propos blogs: Elijah Newren writes from time to time about git > on http://blogs.gnome.org/newren/ ; I think this blog is in a few > GNOME planets, so if he were so kind as put announcement there > when the time comes... =C2=A0It would be good to have such announceme= nt > on some blog which is in Perl blog planet (Perlsphere and/or Planet > Perl Iron Man), and similarly for other communities which rely on > blogs (KDE, Ruby: anyone?). > > There is also http://www.versioncontrolblog.com (which is currently > off-line, so I can't check who to contact). Yeap, posting on planets will get a lot of attention. Cheers. --=20 =46elipe Contreras