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From: "Robert Anderson" <rwa000@gmail.com>
To: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: An alternate model for preparing partial commits
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:43:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9af502e50806271143v206eb5afi193d4ed642f86c98@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vprq2rbfz.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> I've always said that I am not in favor of any form of partial commits,
> exactly for the reason Robert states, namely that you are not committing
> what you had in your work tree as a whole.  I said so back when the only
> form of partial commits were "git commit [-o] this-file".  I said it again
> even when I introduced "add -i", that the interface goes backwards and
> does not fix the issues associated with partial commits.

We are seeing eye-to-eye here.

> But I agree with you that calling the index half-baked is missing the
> point.

What I said is that the index is a half-baked version of _what I
want_, which is the ability to do partial commits from testable
states.  Clearly the index is a way to do partial commits, but it does
not address the "untested state" issue, so it is only halfway there,
i.e., half-baked.

> The index is merely the lowest level of facility to stage what is
> to be committed, and there is no half nor full bakedness to it.  The way
> the current Porcelain layer uses it however could be improved and Robert
> is allowed to call _that_ half-baked when he is in a foul mood (even then
> I would rather prefer people to be civil on this list).

Fair enough.  I did not mean "half baked" to be particular provocative, fwiw.

> I would actually go the other way.  I think the problem we are trying to
> solve here in this thread is to support this (other) workflow:
>
>    You keep working, and eventually build all the changes intermixed in
>    your work tree, perhaps without any commit, or perhaps with a commit
>    sequence that is only meant as snapshots and not as a logical
>    sequence.  Your work tree state is in good shape right now (you do
>    build and test at this "commit goal" state).  Now you would want to
>    split the changes while making sure each step is good (i.e. builds and
>    tests fine as well as the patch makes sense standalone).
>
> One thing I think would make sense is to stash away _everything_ at this
> point.  That would take you to the state before you started working.  Then
> if we can selectively _unstash_ the parts that should logically be
> committed first to bring them to your work tree, then you can inspect that
> change against HEAD, test it, and when you are happy with it, you would
> make your first commit in the final sequence.

Exactly.  That was a good summary of the workflow I proposed in my
original email.

> Once you have capability to unstash selectively and make that first commit
> in the final sequence like so, breaking up the remainder that is still in
> your stash to a reasonable sequence of commits can be done with the same
> workflow.  Unstash the next batch, inspect, test and be satisfied and then
> commmit.  Lather, rinse and repeat.

Bingo.

Time permitting, I will propose a more well thought through UI for
this workflow.  If you like it, we can talk about how it might be
implemented.

Thanks,
Bob

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-27 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-27  6:50 An alternate model for preparing partial commits Robert Anderson
2008-06-27  7:10 ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-06-27 14:37   ` [PATCH/RFC] stash: introduce 'stash save --keep-index' option SZEDER Gábor
2008-06-27 18:26     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-27 16:54   ` An alternate model for preparing partial commits Robert Anderson
2008-06-27 17:27     ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-06-27 17:34       ` Robert Anderson
2008-06-27  8:35 ` Johannes Sixt
2008-06-27 17:01   ` Robert Anderson
2008-06-27  8:50 ` Petr Baudis
2008-06-27 17:02   ` Robert Anderson
2008-06-27 13:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-27 13:49   ` Miklos Vajna
2008-06-27 17:14   ` Robert Anderson
2008-06-27 17:45     ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-27 17:49       ` Robert Anderson
     [not found]         ` <alpine.DEB.1.00.0806271854120.9925@racer>
2008-06-27 18:07           ` Robert Anderson
2008-06-27 18:20         ` Dana How
2008-06-27 20:31     ` Stephen Sinclair
     [not found]       ` <willow-jeske-01l7H4tHFEDjCgPV-01l7ZhB8FEDjCdJs>
2008-06-27 20:45         ` David Jeske
2008-06-27 20:45         ` David Jeske
2008-06-28 17:23           ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-06-28  2:14     ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-06-28  2:57       ` Robert Anderson
2008-06-28  4:03         ` Dmitry Potapov
     [not found]           ` <9af502e50806272320p23f01e8eo4a67c5f6f4476098@mail.gmail.com>
2008-06-28  6:31             ` Fwd: " Robert Anderson
2008-06-28 12:38               ` Dmitry Potapov
     [not found]             ` <20080628123522.GL5737@dpotapov.dyndns.org>
2008-06-28 15:53               ` Robert Anderson
2008-06-28 16:52                 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-06-27 18:15   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-27 18:43     ` Robert Anderson [this message]
2008-06-28  5:03     ` Jeff King
2008-06-28  7:03       ` Robert Anderson
2008-06-28  8:53         ` Jeff King
2008-06-28 21:53           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-28 14:51       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-08  4:58         ` Jeff King
     [not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l7H4tHFEDjCgPV-01l7H4sOFEDjCbyi>
2008-06-27 20:29   ` David Jeske
2008-06-27 20:29   ` David Jeske
2008-06-27 20:47     ` Jakub Narebski
     [not found]       ` <willow-jeske-01l7H4tHFEDjCgPV-01l7[1OFFEDjCYJV>
2008-06-27 20:51         ` David Jeske
2008-06-27 20:51         ` David Jeske
     [not found]       ` <-8386235276716376372@unknownmsgid>
2008-06-27 22:55         ` Robert Anderson
2008-06-27 23:14           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-28  0:08             ` Robert Anderson
2008-06-28  2:57               ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-06-28  3:31                 ` Robert Anderson
2008-06-28 14:34               ` Stephen Sinclair
2008-06-28 16:00                 ` Robert Anderson
2008-06-28 16:30                 ` Robert Anderson
2008-06-28 17:12                   ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-28 18:25                     ` Robert Anderson
     [not found]                       ` <willow-jeske-01l7H4tHFEDjCgPV-01l82hwbFEDjCX70>
2008-06-28 19:12                         ` David Jeske
2008-06-28 19:12                         ` David Jeske
2008-06-28 19:13                   ` Stephen Sinclair
     [not found]           ` <willow-jeske-01l7H4tHFEDjCgPV-01l7buicFEDjCagd>
2008-06-28  0:22             ` David Jeske
2008-06-28  0:22             ` David Jeske
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-28  1:17 Theodore Tso
2008-06-28  1:56 ` Miklos Vajna
2008-06-28  1:23 Theodore Tso
2008-06-28  9:30 Stephen R. van den Berg

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