From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.176.0/21 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: "Jon Smirl" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: What's in git.git] Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:40:06 -0500 Message-ID: <9e4733910611190940y147992b8mbdfac5a51f42e0fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061119171135.GA13054@spearce.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HsbTPnP+yie5QgShU8lluFIz3oE9khe2hbRn4hjkmZibziVEMmmYSWNuBXeUP7B/IFaOqP7RWO2FF/xANClPUpRWGQx+yHOiBTQhPXwUFFP0MW0fbTqxoPkgGp0Ot3unvQQCVzOy8B1w4zDpv6L+uM2bgcfAnbUhFIPeDFmQ8CY= In-Reply-To: <20061119171135.GA13054@spearce.org> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.6/2203/Sat Nov 18 04:54:38 2006 on zeus1.kernel.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlqgQ-00082P-K4 for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:42:23 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756812AbWKSRmS (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:42:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756814AbWKSRmS (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:42:18 -0500 Received: from zeus1.kernel.org ([204.152.191.4]:3537 "EHLO zeus1.kernel.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756812AbWKSRmR (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:42:17 -0500 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by zeus1.kernel.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAJHg0kC020294 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:42:14 GMT Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so894149pyi for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.119.11 with SMTP id w11mr6739671pym.1163958006547; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.72.13 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:40:06 -0800 (PST) To: "Shawn Pearce" , "Git Mailing List" Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org On 11/19/06, Shawn Pearce wrote: > Have you been watching the shallow clone threads? Some friends of mine are doing a start up that is sort of like a Sonos system but with some major differences. I've been helping them out so I've been doing chip design and PCB layouts lately. The system also needs some really complicated real-time, wireless mesh routing software, I wish the OLPC 802.11s code was ready. Brendan told me that he would not consider Mozilla moving to git until a native Windows version is released so I just dropped the whole thing. It is too much effort and they don't even really want it. They are probably going to switch to SVN. I told him that SVN would end up being a disaster and he got mad at me. That's when I stopped working on cvs2svn/git. The shallow clone work is being done in the wrong order to get the Mozilla people interested. #1) There needs to be a tool that can accurately import the repository. cvs2svn does not do this. The good programmers working on git could probably whip this out in a week or two if they wanted to. cvs2svn is very close but they refuse to solve the symbol dependency problem. #2) git needs native Windows support, this probably includes MSVC integration. There are a lot of non-technical people working on Mozilla like accessibility, doc, artwork, translations, they are all on Windows. Brendan explicitly ruled out cygwIn. #3) Once #1 and #2 are achieved then they will care about shallow clone. The only way I can see Mozilla moving to git is if the git community ports the repository for them and then demonstrates that all of the needed tools and available and working. > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Johannes Schindelin > To: Junio C Hamano > Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 16:17:17 +0100 (CET) > Subject: Re: What's in git.git > Hi, > > On Sat, 18 Nov 2006, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > > Junio C Hamano writes: > > > > > - 'pu' has the shallow clone WIP and a half-finished rewrite of > > > git branch in C, both by Johannes. Both needs a bit more > > > polishing and confidence building before going into 'next', > > > and given the recent discussion of enhancing branch > > > management for pulls/pushes, it might be easier to drop the > > > latter for now. > > > > OOPS; sorry but the latter half is entirely untrue. What's > > there is half-done git-shortlog. Scratch everything about > > branch management please. > > IMHO -shortlog needs support to read .mailmap, and maybe nods to throw out > the built-in mailmap which is totally specific to the Linux kernel > development. > > As for shallow clone support: I am a bit underwhelmed by the enthusiasm > to test this thing by the people I thought would be most interested. It > really could be the case that it is not needed at all. > > Just for the record, though: AFAICT the shallow stuff is lacking support > for at least pushing from/into shallow repos and it should avoid making a > commit shallow unnecessarily. And quite likely there are a few thinkos in > it, so it would not hurt having more test cases (notably of things I did > not think of), and some bad-ass testing with huge amounts of commits and > files which were added/modified identically in different commits. > > Ciao, > Dscho > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > > -- Jon Smirl