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From: "Jon Smirl" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: "Michael Poole" <mdpoole@troilus.org>
Cc: "Jan Hudec" <bulb@ucw.cz>, "David Kastrup" <dak@gnu.org>,
	"Benoit Sigoure" <tsuna@lrde.epita.fr>,
	"Andy Parkins" <andyparkins@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: If you would write git from scratch now, what would you change?
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:48:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e4733910711261248o3ece7523s1069490e6c87932f@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87oddgzr3c.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org>

On 11/26/07, Michael Poole <mdpoole@troilus.org> wrote:
> Jan Hudec writes:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 14:50:35 -0500, Michael Poole wrote:
> >> Jan Hudec writes:
> >>
> >> > The basic pull/push actions are:
> >> >
> >> > git pull: Bring the remote ref value here.
> >> > git push: Put the local ref value there.
> >> >
> >> > Are those not oposites?
> >> >
> >> > Than each command has it's different features on top of this -- pull merges
> >> > and push can push multiple refs -- but in the basic operation they are
> >> > oposites.
> >>
> >> I think that is in absolute agreement with David: Ducks swim on the
> >> surface of the water and lobsters swim underneath.  Why consider the
> >> different features on top of where they swim?
> >>
> >> The thing about git-pull that surprises so many users is the merge.
> >> There's a separate command to do that step, and git-pull had a fairly
> >> good excuse to do the merge before git's 1.5.x remote system was in
> >> place, but now the only really defensible reason for its behavior is
> >> history.
> >
> > When I first looked at hg -- and that was long before I looked at git --
> > I was surprised that their pull did NOT merge and you had to do a separate
> > step. Partly because doing those two steps is quite common.
>
> Frequency of use is a good argument for having one command that does
> both.  It is not a good argument that "fetch, then merge" should be
> called "pull" or is the opposite of "push".

I'm starting to think that things oriented around the default names of
master and origin needs rethinking. Everything should use explicitly
named remotes. You could always do something like set a default remote
repository, but that is different than using the magic name 'origin'.

-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-26 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-25 21:48 If you would write git from scratch now, what would you change? Jakub Narebski
2007-11-25 22:23 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-11-26  1:28   ` Steven Walter
2007-11-26  6:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-26  6:36       ` Adam Roben
2007-11-26 15:32         ` Carlos Rica
2007-11-26 16:40           ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-26 16:46 ` Andy Parkins
2007-11-26 17:10   ` Benoit Sigoure
2007-11-26 18:56     ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-26 19:12       ` David Kastrup
2007-11-26 19:34         ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-26 19:50           ` Michael Poole
2007-11-26 20:09             ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-26 20:31               ` Michael Poole
2007-11-26 20:48                 ` Jon Smirl [this message]
2007-11-26 20:11     ` Andy Parkins
2007-11-26 19:25   ` Marco Costalba
2007-11-27  1:20     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-11-27  1:46       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-27  1:58         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-11-27 11:39           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-27 23:59             ` [RFC] git-gui USer's Survey 2007 (was: If you would write git from scratch now, what would you change?) Jakub Narebski
2007-11-28 12:32               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-28 15:48                 ` Jason Sewall
2007-11-28 23:25                 ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-28 23:48                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-29  6:57                     ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-29 12:01                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-30 17:50                         ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-30 18:25                           ` Marco Costalba
2007-12-01  2:35                           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-12-01  2:53                             ` Marco Costalba
2007-11-28 13:18               ` [RFC] git-gui USer's Survey 2007 Sergei Organov
2007-11-27  8:45     ` If you would write git from scratch now, what would you change? Andy Parkins
2007-11-27 13:15       ` Marco Costalba
2007-11-27 23:56         ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-27 17:48       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-04 11:00         ` Andy Parkins
2007-11-27 17:33   ` Jing Xue
2007-11-26 16:48 ` Jon Smirl
2007-11-26 17:11 ` David Kastrup
2007-11-26 19:27   ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-26 20:11     ` Benoit Sigoure
2007-11-26 20:36       ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-26 19:30   ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26 19:34     ` David Kastrup
2007-11-26 19:57       ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-26 20:35         ` David Kastrup
2007-11-26 21:00           ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-26 21:28           ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26 20:45         ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-11-26 21:24           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-26 21:35             ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26 21:47               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-26 22:03                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-27  1:03             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-11-27  3:35               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-27  5:10                 ` Steven Grimm
2007-11-26 21:27     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-26 21:39       ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26 21:40         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-27 14:11     ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-11-27 14:38       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-26 19:18 ` Dana How
2007-11-26 19:52   ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26 20:17     ` Dana How
2007-11-26 20:55       ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26 22:02         ` Dana How
2007-11-26 22:22           ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26 20:17   ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-26 20:36     ` Dana How
2007-11-27  1:25   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-11-27  5:07     ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-27  1:48 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-11-27  1:54   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-27  1:59     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-11-27  2:15       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-27 11:47         ` C# binding, was " Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-27  4:58   ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-27  5:59     ` Dana How
2007-11-27  6:12       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-11-27 16:33     ` Linus Torvalds

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