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From: "Jon Smirl" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: pack operation is thrashing my server
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 09:58:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e4733910809070658k66e0481fx758e9a365229cf18@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0809062148110.3117@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>

On 9/7/08, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>
>  On Sat, 6 Sep 2008, Jon Smirl wrote:
>  >
>
> > When I was playing with those giant Mozilla packs speed of zlib wasn't
>  > a big problem. Number one problem was the repack process exceeding 3GB
>  > which forced me to get 64b hardware and 8GB of memory. If you start
>  > swapping in a repack, kill it, it will probably take a month to
>  > finish.
>
>
> .. and you'd make things much much WORSE?

My observations on the Mozilla packs indicated that the problems were
elsewhere in git, not in the decompression algorithms. Why does a
single 2000 delta chain take 15% of the entire pack time? Something
isn't right when long chains are processed which triggers far more
decompressions than needed.


>
>
>  > Size and speed are not unrelated.
>
>
> Jon, go away.
>
>  Go and _look_ at those damn numbers you tried to point me to.
>
>  Those "better" compression models you pointed at are not only hundreds of
>  times slower than zlib, they take hundreds of times more memory too!
>
>  Yes, size and speed are definitely not unrelated. And in this situation,
>  when it comes to compression algorithms, the relationship is _very_ clear:
>
>   - better compression takes more memory and is slower
>
>  Really. You're trying to argue for something, but you don't seem to
>  realize that you argue _against_ the thing you think you are arguing for.
>
>
>                 Linus
>


-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-07 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-10 19:47 pack operation is thrashing my server Ken Pratt
2008-08-10 23:06 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-08-10 23:12   ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-10 23:30     ` Martin Langhoff
2008-08-10 23:34       ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-11  3:04 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-11  7:43   ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-11 15:01     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-11 15:40       ` Avery Pennarun
2008-08-11 15:59         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-11 19:13       ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-11 19:10     ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 19:15       ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-13  2:38         ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-13  2:50           ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-13  2:57             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-11 19:22       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-11 19:29         ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-11 19:34           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-11 20:10             ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-13  3:12       ` Geert Bosch
2008-08-13  3:15         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-13  3:58           ` Geert Bosch
2008-08-13 14:37             ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-13 14:56               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-08-13 15:04                 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-13 15:26                   ` David Tweed
2008-08-13 23:54                     ` Martin Langhoff
2008-08-14  9:04                       ` David Tweed
2008-08-13 16:10                   ` Johan Herland
2008-08-13 17:38                     ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-13 17:57                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-13 14:35         ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-13 14:59           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-13 15:43             ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-13 15:50               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-13 17:04                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-13 17:19                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-14  6:33                   ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-08-14 10:04                     ` Thomas Rast
2008-08-14 10:15                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-08-14 22:33                         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-15  1:46                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-14 14:01                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-14 17:21                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 17:58                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 19:04                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-14 19:44                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 21:30                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-15 16:15                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 21:50                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-14 23:14                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 23:39                               ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-08-15  0:06                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-15  0:25                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-16 12:47                                   ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-08-16  0:34                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-07  1:03                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-07  1:46                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-07  2:33                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-07 17:11                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-07 17:41                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-07  2:50                                     ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-07  3:07                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-07  3:43                                         ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-07  4:50                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-07 13:58                                             ` Jon Smirl [this message]
2008-09-07 17:08                                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-07 20:33                                                 ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-08 14:17                                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-08 15:12                                                     ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-08 16:01                                                       ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-07  8:18                                         ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-09-07  7:45                                     ` Mike Hommey
2008-08-14 18:38                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-14 18:55                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-13 16:01           ` Geert Bosch
2008-08-13 17:13             ` Dana How
2008-08-13 17:26             ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-13 12:43 ` Jakub Narebski

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