From: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
david@lang.hm, Nicolas Sebrecht <nicolas.s-dev@laposte.net>,
"Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org>,
Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
"Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>
Subject: Re: Performance issue: initial git clone causes massive repack
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:37:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e4733910904060737k3d1c082fk785cd98cdeb6d73d@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0904060959250.6741@xanadu.home>
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Jon Smirl wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>> > Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org> writes:
>> >
>> >> What git-pack-objects does in this case is not a full repack. It
>> >> instead _reuse_ as much of the existing packs as possible, and only does
>> >> the heavy packing processing for loose objects and/or inter pack
>> >> boundaryes when gluing everything together for streaming over the net.
>> >> If for example you have a single pack because your repo is already fully
>> >> packed, then the "packing operation" involved during a clone should
>> >> merely copy the existing pack over with no further attempt at delta
>> >> compression.
>> >
>> > One possibile scenario that you still need to spend memory and cycle is if
>> > the cloned repository was packed to an excessive depth to cause many of
>> > its objects to be in deltified form on insanely deep chains, while cloning
>> > send-pack uses a depth that is more reasonable. Then pack-objects invoked
>> > by send-pack is not allowed to reuse most of the objects and would end up
>> > redoing the delta on them.
>>
>> That seems broken. You went through all of the trouble to make the
>> pack file smaller to reduce transmission time, and then clone undoes
>> the work.
>
> And as I already explained, this is indeed not what happens.
>
>> What about making a very simple special case for an initial clone?
>
> There should not be any need for initial clone hacks.
>
>> First thing an initial clone does is copy all of the pack files from
>> the server to the client without even looking at them.
>
> This is a no go for reasons already stated many times. There are
> security implications (those packs might contain stuff that you didn't
> intend to be publically accessible) and there might be efficiency
> reasons as well (you might have a shared object store with lots of stuff
> unrelated to the particular clone).
How do you deal with dense history packs? These packs take many hours
to make (on a server class machine) and can be half the size of a
regular pack. Shouldn't there be a way to copy these packs intact on
an initial clone? It's ok if these packs are specially marked as being
ok to copy.
>
> The biggest cost right now when cloning a big packed repo is object
> enumeration. Any other issues related to memory costs in the GB range
> simply has no reason for it, and is mostly due to misconfigurations or
> bugs that have to be fixed. Trying to work around the issue by all
> sorts of hacks is simply counter productive.
>
> In the case that started this very thread, I suspect that a small
> misfeature of some delta caching might be the culprit. I asked Robin H.
> Johnson to perform a really simple config addition to his repo and
> retest, for which we still haven't seen any results yet.
>
>
> Nicolas
>
--
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-06 14:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-04 22:07 Performance issue: initial git clone causes massive repack Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-05 0:05 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-04-05 0:37 ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-05 3:54 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-04-05 4:08 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-04-05 7:04 ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-05 19:02 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-04-05 19:17 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-04-05 23:02 ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-05 20:43 ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-05 21:08 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-04-05 21:28 ` david
2009-04-05 21:36 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-04-06 3:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-07 8:10 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-07 9:45 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-04-07 13:13 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-07 13:37 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-04-07 14:03 ` Jon Smirl
2009-04-07 17:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-07 14:21 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-07 17:48 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-07 18:12 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-07 18:56 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-07 20:27 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-08 4:52 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-10 20:38 ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-11 1:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-11 7:06 ` Mike Hommey
2009-04-14 15:52 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-14 20:17 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-14 20:27 ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-14 21:02 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-15 3:09 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-04-15 5:53 ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-15 5:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-04-15 11:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-22 1:15 ` Sam Vilain
2009-04-22 9:55 ` Mike Ralphson
2009-04-22 11:24 ` Pieter de Bie
2009-04-22 13:19 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-22 14:35 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-04-22 16:40 ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-04-22 17:06 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-23 19:30 ` Christian Couder
2009-04-22 14:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-22 22:01 ` Sam Vilain
2009-04-22 22:50 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-22 23:07 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-22 23:30 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-23 3:16 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-14 20:30 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-04-07 20:29 ` Jeff King
2009-04-07 20:35 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-08 11:28 ` [PATCH] process_{tree,blob}: Remove useless xstrdup calls Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-10 22:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 0:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 1:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 1:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-11 13:41 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-11 14:07 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-11 18:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 18:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 19:22 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-11 20:50 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-11 21:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 23:24 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-11 18:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 19:40 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-11 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-05 22:59 ` Performance issue: initial git clone causes massive repack Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-04-05 23:20 ` david
2009-04-05 23:28 ` Robin Rosenberg
2009-04-06 3:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 5:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-04-06 13:12 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 13:52 ` Jon Smirl
2009-04-06 14:19 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 14:37 ` Jon Smirl [this message]
2009-04-06 14:48 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-04-06 15:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 15:28 ` Jon Smirl
2009-04-06 16:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 11:22 ` Matthieu Moy
2009-04-06 13:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 14:03 ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-06 14:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-07 10:11 ` Martin Langhoff
2009-04-05 19:57 ` Jeff King
2009-04-05 23:38 ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-05 23:42 ` Robin H. Johnson
[not found] ` <0015174c150e49b5740466d7d2c2@google.com>
2009-04-06 0:29 ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-06 3:10 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-04-06 4:09 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 4:06 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-06 14:20 ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-04-11 17:24 ` Mark Levedahl
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