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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] grep: Don't pass a TODO test if REG_STARTEND is supported
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:44:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTim-4I5Sdu653yJOmnVYDqI8bb71839Vqfd3FKCi@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vtyo0vdpz.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 17:47, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 19:40, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason  <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> +if git grep ile a
>>>> +then
>>>> +     test_expect_success 'git grep ile a' 'git grep ile a'
>>>> +else
>>>> +     test_expect_failure 'git grep ile a' 'git grep ile a'
>>>> +fi
>>>
>>> So if command "X" is known to succeed, we run it inside expect_success
>>> and if not we run it inside expect_failure?
>>>
>>> What kind of idiocy is that, I have to wonder...
>>
>> Well, the point is to normalize the test suite so that we never have
>> passing TODO tests if everything's OK.
>
> I do not consider a test that passes under some condition but doesn't
> under some other condition "everything is OK".  Marking the test as
> "expect failure" as René originally did makes a lot of sense to me.
>
> The quoted patch is even worse as it will _actively_ prevent you from
> catching a new error you just introduced while futzing "git grep" on a
> platform that used to work.  Your "if" statement will say "ah, grep is
> broken", and you will use expect-failure, not because your platform does
> not support REG_STARTEND, but because you broke "git grep".
>
> The point of having tests is to help you catch your bugs while you
> develop.  A test that turns itself off when the feature it is testing is
> broken helps nobody.
>
> So forget about "passing TODO tests", whatever a "TODO test" is.  The
> change in question is actively _wrong_.

I was under the impression that REG_STARTEND was considered purely
icing on the cake, i.e. that the tests should be passing whether or
not it was present.

I guess my reasoning at the time was that if that wasn't the case,
reporting an unexpected pass by default, as opposed to a failing TODO
on platforms without REG_STARTEND. Since only TAP will report this, I
thought that was just an omission.

Anyway, since REG_STARTEND *isn't* obviously considered icing you're
of course right, but the test is still broken as-is. Now it reports an
abnormal condition if REG_STARTEND is present (passing TODO test), it
should instead have a failing TODO test where REG_STARTEND isn't
present. I'll come up with a patch to fix that.

We should also just upgrade the GNU regex library in compat/regex to
the version that supports REG_STARTEND. Unfortunately that seems
easier said than done, since the library is now part of glibc, and has
aquired a lot of glibc specific macros and other constructs that would
need to be #defined away or otherwise worked around.

Thanks for the review.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-15 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-08  0:42 [PATCH] grep: Don't pass a TODO test if REG_STARTEND is supported Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-07-08 19:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-07-08 20:09   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-07-08 21:58     ` René Scharfe
2010-07-15 15:32       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-07-15 17:47     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-07-15 18:44       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
     [not found]         ` <20100715220059.GA3312@burratino>
2010-07-16 13:58           ` [RFC/PATCH] Update compat/regex Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-07-16 14:17             ` Andreas Schwab
2010-08-15 11:08               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-16 12:26                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-17  3:25                 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/3] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-17  3:25                 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/3] compat/regex: hacks to get the gawk regex engine to compile within git Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-17  3:35                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-17  3:25                 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/3] t/t7008-grep-binary.sh: un-TODO a test that needs REG_STARTEND Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
     [not found]                 ` <1282015548-19074-2-git-send-email-avarab@gmail.com>
2010-08-17  3:37                   ` [PATCH/RFC 1/3] compat/regex: use the regex engine from gawk for compat Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-17  3:50                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-17  4:08                       ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-17  5:17                 ` [PATCH/RFC v2 0/3] Update compat/regex Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-17  8:03                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-17  9:24                     ` [PATCH 0/5] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-17 11:46                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-17 23:19                       ` Junio C Hamano
2010-08-17 23:50                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-18 10:41                           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-17  9:24                     ` [PATCH 2/5] compat/regex: get the gawk regex engine to compile within git Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-17  9:24                     ` [PATCH 3/5] Change regerror() declaration from K&R style to ANSI C (C89) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-17  9:24                     ` [PATCH 4/5] t/t7008-grep-binary.sh: un-TODO a test that needs REG_STARTEND Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-17  9:24                     ` [PATCH 5/5] autoconf: don't use platform regex if it lacks REG_STARTEND Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-17  5:17                 ` [PATCH/RFC v2 2/3] compat/regex: get the gawk regex engine to compile within git Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-17  5:17                 ` [PATCH/RFC v2 3/3] t/t7008-grep-binary.sh: un-TODO a test that needs REG_STARTEND Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-07-16 14:33         ` [PATCH] grep: Don't pass a TODO test if REG_STARTEND is supported Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-07-16 19:50           ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-07-16 20:51             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-07-16 21:06               ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-07-16 21:19                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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