From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton Subject: Re: git pack/unpack over bittorrent - works! Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 21:47:19 +0100 Message-ID: References: <7voccezr7m.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> <20100903183120.GA4887@thunk.org> <04755B03-EE1D-48FA-8894-33AA8E2661C0@mit.edu> <5B5470E5-57E6-48D2-981B-CE77FA43546F@mit.edu> <20100904181405.GB4887@thunk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: "Ted Ts'o" , Nicolas Pitre , Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org To: Jakub Narebski X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sat Sep 04 22:47:27 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Orze2-00054F-J4 for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:47:26 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752828Ab0IDUrV convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2010 16:47:21 -0400 Received: from mail-vw0-f46.google.com ([209.85.212.46]:58040 "EHLO mail-vw0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751854Ab0IDUrU convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2010 16:47:20 -0400 Received: by vws3 with SMTP id 3so2298066vws.19 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:47:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t7uyc3jN6uB53+XrI2mu9S91r71/xkm8ooc1rioesIc=; b=QctMRuqEaPeBrIrTohwYhehPHWKKBa8pvT1HpKszmqRNQkPS9e+3r+V1dwDdbE+sIB qVSWVkTX3jthI91Ddx0lqiwuLnqppggwdFqj/sPpu7RRkrZVZkpL5rJD/XlZZHK/fkcu iIbXyphaX/jS1Jagi5bEGR2T0Z4BY+t5GUS4A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HKqgAoq2/kzO0Sl789hgeGGEZADAIJ61xvHl4hTFjN0P8aStgSgLCchPaDRkbFGqAu Cgfig9AKlxWETvjCvUwYud2NqcorjAM1i06RKw7vdbF5gSUGac5MQ8wDMlaojRzUZctO tZ0XlEIsJP6OcLEu0E88YlOuWOPnuP/KBa3os= Received: by 10.220.88.138 with SMTP id a10mr1554433vcm.236.1283633240091; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.98.8 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Sep 2010 13:47:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Jakub Narebski wrote= : > Luke, you don't have to be peer-to-peer to be decentralized and > distributed. =C2=A0People from what I understand bitch most about > centralized (and closed) services. i've covered this in the FAQ i wrote: =46AQ: Q: is git a "distributed source control system"? A: yeees, but the "distribution" part has to be done the hard way, by setting up servers, forcing developers and users to configure git to use those [single-point-of-failure] servers. so it's "more correct" to say that git is a "distributable" source control system. so if you believe that git is "distributed" just because people can set up a server.... mmm :) i'd say that your administrative and technical skills are way above the average persons' capabilities. proper peer-to-peer networking infrastructure takes care of things like firewall-busting, by using UPnP automatically, as part of the infrastructure. come on, people - _think_. we're so used to being able to run our own infrastructure and workaround problems or server down-time, but most people still use "winzip", if they have any kind of revision control _at all_. l.