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From: Michael Nahas <mike.nahas@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Command-line interface thoughts
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:06:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTikHkTHP7eJ=_wPosi7yj4BX=c1gaA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201106101219.18497.jnareb@gmail.com>

> 'git diff' / 'git diff --cached' / 'git diff HEAD' is about use cases
> (or "user stories").  'git diff NEXT WTREE' / 'git diff HEAD NEXT' /
> / 'git diff HEAD WTREE' are about mechanism.

Would you say that the UNIX commands "find", "grep", and "xargs" are
about use cases?  I rarely use them by themselves.  They clearly
manipulate concepts: files and lines.  So, it's easy for me to think
what this does:

find . | grep "\.h" | xargs grep MyClass | grep public

I'm trying to find concepts the concepts that git manipulates and I
think NEXT and WTREE are part of those concepts.

It is my opinion that if we focus on concepts, we'll be able to create
general commands and that the user will be able to combine the
commands in new and interesting ways, like I combined the UNIX
commands above.

I believe in "common" use cases.  The common case should be fast.  I
have always recommended still allowing "git diff" by itself.


BUT if we focus only on use cases, we'll create tools that are
specific to ONE thing and are NOT general.  They will be harder for
users to conceptualize and harder to combine in new and interesting
ways.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-10 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <BANLkTikTWx7A64vN+hVZgL7cuiZ16Eobgg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-06-04 16:17 ` Command-line interface thoughts Michael Nahas
2011-06-04 21:49   ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-05  1:00     ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-05 11:10       ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-05 18:39         ` Scott Chacon
2011-06-05 23:37           ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-06  6:16           ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-06  7:34             ` Michael J Gruber
2011-06-06 11:45               ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-06 12:19               ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-06 13:20                 ` Michael J Gruber
2011-06-08 13:10                   ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-06 16:23                 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-06 16:40                   ` Drew Northup
2011-06-06 14:00               ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-06 14:16                 ` Michael J Gruber
2011-06-06 16:14                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-06 17:42                     ` Scott Chacon
2011-06-06 19:01                       ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                         ` <BANLkTi=yytzDrJLvVn_ZhJOiQs-rqvKi1w@mail.gmail.com>
2011-06-07  2:31                           ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-07  4:03                             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-07 11:04                               ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-07  6:11                     ` Michael J Gruber
2011-06-07 11:45                       ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-06-07 19:00                         ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-07 19:11                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-06-07 20:33                             ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-08 13:04                               ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-08 18:56                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09 11:55                                   ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-10 16:44                                     ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-10 18:07                                       ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-10 18:35                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-10 22:45                                           ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-13  3:43                                             ` git diff --added (Re: Command-line interface thoughts) Jonathan Nieder
2011-06-13  4:11                                               ` Miles Bader
2011-06-13  4:46                                                 ` Miles Bader
2011-06-13  8:06                                                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-06-13 12:55                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-13 12:28                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-13 19:47                                                   ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-13 20:31                                                     ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-13 10:15                                             ` Command-line interface thoughts Jakub Narebski
2011-06-13 22:33                                               ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-14  4:21                                               ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-14  7:51                                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-07 19:34                         ` René Scharfe
2011-06-07 19:38                           ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-08 11:12                       ` Command-line interface thoughts (ad-hominem attacks) Jakub Narebski
2011-06-08 11:39                         ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-08 12:42                           ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-08 14:15                             ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-08 15:05                           ` Jeff King
2011-06-08 18:57                             ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-09  0:43                               ` Jeff King
2011-06-09  1:56                                 ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-10 15:29                                   ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09  9:48                               ` Command-line interface thoughts Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09 11:44                                 ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-09 12:45                                   ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09 13:06                                     ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09  9:06             ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-09 10:02               ` Andreas Ericsson
2011-06-09 13:30                 ` Thomas Rast
2011-06-09 16:18               ` Jeff King
2011-06-09 17:15                 ` Jay Soffian
2011-06-09 17:20                   ` Jeff King
2011-06-09 17:36                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-09 18:20                     ` Jay Soffian
2011-06-09 19:40                       ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-09 18:03                 ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-09 18:38                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-09 19:17                     ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-09 20:04                     ` Jeff King
2011-06-09 21:37                       ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-09 22:04                         ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09 23:02                           ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-10 10:19                             ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-10 11:06                               ` Michael Nahas [this message]
2011-06-10 12:20                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09 22:21                         ` Jeff King
2011-06-09 22:27                         ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-09 22:38                           ` Jeff King
2011-06-09 22:55                             ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-10  0:00                             ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-10  0:08                               ` Jeff King
2011-06-10 21:48                       ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-10 22:08                         ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-10 23:05                         ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-12  6:06                         ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-12 21:12                           ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-12 13:30                         ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-12 21:29                           ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-13  2:14                             ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-13 18:50                         ` Jeff King
2011-06-09 19:41                   ` Jeff King
2011-06-05 21:22         ` Paul Ebermann
2011-06-05 21:34   ` Paul Ebermann

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