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From: Michael Nahas <mike.nahas@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Command-line interface thoughts (ad-hominem attacks)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:15:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTik_yw1awh6wM6hmUUxbgW5iVuOzCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201106081442.37849.jnareb@gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011, Michael Nahas wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > I don't quite think that we need "git diff NEXT WTREE"; the short
>> > and sweet "git diff" is short for a reason,
>>
>> To be clear, I'm not advocating and have never advocated getting rid
>> of zero-argument "git diff".  I've advocated that every (whole
>> project) diff command should be expressible by a "git diff TREE1
>> TREE2".  I'm fine with defaults if one or zero trees are specified.
>
> Those pseudo-almost-refs (almost-tree-ish) are to help new users, isn't it?
> But shouldn't new user learn that he/she should use "git diff" to review
> his changes, rather than use "git diff NEXT WTREE" to compare staged
> contents with working area?

I think we need a new term that refers to NEXT, WTREE, and commits.
It could be "snapshots", but that is closely associated with commit
and has a feeling of being read-only.  Maybe "root-tree"?

I think most users - new or ortherwise - should use "git diff".  It's
the shorter command.  I think a man page saying "git diff" is
equivalent to "git diff NEXT WTREE" is (1) very specific as to what
the command does and (2) illuminates new users to the concepts, so
that when they see "git diff HEAD NEXT" or "git diff HEAD WTREE", they
can imagine what is going on.

>> So "git diff" would default to "git diff NEXT WTREE".
>
> You mean that "git diff NEXT WTREE" output be the same as "git diff",
> except for corner cases (merge conflict), isn't it?

I've addressed the conflict case already.  NEXT should contain HEAD
plus all the resolved files.

As far as I can tell, with that definition, "git diff NEXT WTREE" "git
diff HEAD NEXT" and "git diff HEAD WTREE" would produce the same
results as the current implementation of "git diff", "git diff
--cached" and "git diff HEAD" --- even in a conflicted state.

I've only been able to check that by experimentation; I asked if
someone who knew the code could confirm it.

>
> --
> Jakub Narebski
> Poland
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-08 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <BANLkTikTWx7A64vN+hVZgL7cuiZ16Eobgg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-06-04 16:17 ` Command-line interface thoughts Michael Nahas
2011-06-04 21:49   ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-05  1:00     ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-05 11:10       ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-05 18:39         ` Scott Chacon
2011-06-05 23:37           ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-06  6:16           ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-06  7:34             ` Michael J Gruber
2011-06-06 11:45               ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-06 12:19               ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-06 13:20                 ` Michael J Gruber
2011-06-08 13:10                   ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-06 16:23                 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-06 16:40                   ` Drew Northup
2011-06-06 14:00               ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-06 14:16                 ` Michael J Gruber
2011-06-06 16:14                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-06 17:42                     ` Scott Chacon
2011-06-06 19:01                       ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                         ` <BANLkTi=yytzDrJLvVn_ZhJOiQs-rqvKi1w@mail.gmail.com>
2011-06-07  2:31                           ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-07  4:03                             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-07 11:04                               ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-07  6:11                     ` Michael J Gruber
2011-06-07 11:45                       ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-06-07 19:00                         ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-07 19:11                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-06-07 20:33                             ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-08 13:04                               ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-08 18:56                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09 11:55                                   ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-10 16:44                                     ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-10 18:07                                       ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-10 18:35                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-10 22:45                                           ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-13  3:43                                             ` git diff --added (Re: Command-line interface thoughts) Jonathan Nieder
2011-06-13  4:11                                               ` Miles Bader
2011-06-13  4:46                                                 ` Miles Bader
2011-06-13  8:06                                                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-06-13 12:55                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-13 12:28                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-13 19:47                                                   ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-13 20:31                                                     ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-13 10:15                                             ` Command-line interface thoughts Jakub Narebski
2011-06-13 22:33                                               ` Holger Hellmuth
2011-06-14  4:21                                               ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-14  7:51                                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-07 19:34                         ` René Scharfe
2011-06-07 19:38                           ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-08 11:12                       ` Command-line interface thoughts (ad-hominem attacks) Jakub Narebski
2011-06-08 11:39                         ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-08 12:42                           ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-08 14:15                             ` Michael Nahas [this message]
2011-06-08 15:05                           ` Jeff King
2011-06-08 18:57                             ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-09  0:43                               ` Jeff King
2011-06-09  1:56                                 ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-10 15:29                                   ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09  9:48                               ` Command-line interface thoughts Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09 11:44                                 ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-09 12:45                                   ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09 13:06                                     ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09  9:06             ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-09 10:02               ` Andreas Ericsson
2011-06-09 13:30                 ` Thomas Rast
2011-06-09 16:18               ` Jeff King
2011-06-09 17:15                 ` Jay Soffian
2011-06-09 17:20                   ` Jeff King
2011-06-09 17:36                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-09 18:20                     ` Jay Soffian
2011-06-09 19:40                       ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-09 18:03                 ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-09 18:38                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-09 19:17                     ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-09 20:04                     ` Jeff King
2011-06-09 21:37                       ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-09 22:04                         ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09 23:02                           ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-10 10:19                             ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-10 11:06                               ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-10 12:20                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-09 22:21                         ` Jeff King
2011-06-09 22:27                         ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-09 22:38                           ` Jeff King
2011-06-09 22:55                             ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-10  0:00                             ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-10  0:08                               ` Jeff King
2011-06-10 21:48                       ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-10 22:08                         ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-10 23:05                         ` Jakub Narebski
2011-06-12  6:06                         ` Michael Haggerty
2011-06-12 21:12                           ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-12 13:30                         ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-12 21:29                           ` Junio C Hamano
2011-06-13  2:14                             ` Michael Nahas
2011-06-13 18:50                         ` Jeff King
2011-06-09 19:41                   ` Jeff King
2011-06-05 21:22         ` Paul Ebermann
2011-06-05 21:34   ` Paul Ebermann

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