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From: Martin Langhoff <martin.langhoff@gmail.com>
To: Eric Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com>
Cc: Andreas Krey <a.krey@gmx.de>, Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: I have end-of-lifed cvsps
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 14:08:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACPiFCJ22xiedXAoQktMLd=gASgD0NS24Pya9TvCo9aQP5JaBQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131212182932.GB16960@thyrsus.com>

On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com> wrote:
> I am almost certain the output of cvs-fast-export is stable.  I
> believe the output of cvsps-3.x was, too.  Not sure about 2.x.

IIRC, making the output stable is nontrivial, specially on branches.
Two cases are still in my mind, from when I was wrestling with cvsps.

1 - For a history with CVS HEAD and a long-running "stable release"
branch ("STABLE"), which branched at P1...

   a - adding a file only at the tip of STABLE "retroactively changes
history"  for P1 and perhaps CVS HEAD

   b - forgetting to properly tag a subset of files with the branch
tag, and doing it later retroactively changes history

2 - you can create a new branch or tag with files that do not belong
together in any "commit". Doing so changes history retroactively

... when I say "changes history", I mean that the importers I know
revise their guesses of what files were seen together in a 'commit'.
This is specially true for history recorded with early cvs versions
that did not record a 'commit id'.

cvsps has the strange "feature" that it will cache its
assumptions/guesses, and continue incrementally from there. So if a
change in the CVS repo means that the old guess is now invalidated, it
continues the charade instead of forcing a complete rewrite of the git
history.

Maybe the current crop of tools have developed stronger magic than
what was available a few years ago... the task did seem impossible to
me.

cheers,




m
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-12 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-12  0:17 I have end-of-lifed cvsps Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12  3:38 ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-12  4:26   ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12 13:42     ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-12 17:17       ` Andreas Krey
2013-12-12 17:26         ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-12 18:35           ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12 18:29         ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12 19:08           ` Martin Langhoff [this message]
2013-12-12 19:39             ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12 19:48               ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-12 20:58                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12 22:51                   ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-12 23:04                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-13  2:35                       ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-13  3:38                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12 18:15       ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-12 18:53         ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-17 10:57       ` Jakub Narębski
2013-12-17 11:18         ` Johan Herland
2013-12-17 14:58           ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-17 17:52             ` Johan Herland
2013-12-17 18:47               ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-17 21:26                 ` Johan Herland
2013-12-17 22:41                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-18 23:44                 ` Michael Haggerty
2013-12-19  1:11                   ` Johan Herland
2013-12-19  9:31                     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-12-19 15:26                       ` Johan Herland
2013-12-19 16:18                         ` Michael Haggerty
2013-12-19  4:06                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-19  9:43                     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-12-17 14:07         ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-17 19:58           ` Jakub Narębski
2013-12-17 21:02             ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-18  0:02               ` Jakub Narębski
2013-12-18  0:21                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-18 15:39                   ` Jakub Narębski
2013-12-18 16:23                     ` incremental fast-import and marks (Re: I have end-of-lifed cvsps) Jonathan Nieder
2013-12-18 16:27                     ` I have end-of-lifed cvsps Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-18 16:53                       ` Martin Langhoff
2013-12-18 19:54                         ` John Keeping
2013-12-18 20:20                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-18 20:47                             ` Kent R. Spillner
2013-12-18 17:46                       ` Jeff King
2013-12-18 19:16                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2013-12-18  0:04               ` Andreas Schwab
2013-12-18  0:25                 ` Eric S. Raymond

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