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From: Dave Borowitz <dborowitz@google.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] pack-protocol.txt: Mark all LFs in push-cert as required
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 11:22:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD0k6qSJeNBX=kmo4dn-=SqHGottXT2PJfpCD=y_SKNwEMDMyA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD0k6qTDpH0H-k9h+f3X8PjXpOZ7tRzv+8wvi8HALhg9DDm4Ew@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Dave Borowitz <dborowitz@google.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dave Borowitz <dborowitz@google.com> writes:
>>
>> >> I am moderately negative about this; wouldn't it make the end result
>> >> cleaner to fix the implementation?
>> >
>> > I'm not sure I understand your suggestion. Are you saying, you would
>> > prefer to make LFs optional in the push cert, for consistency with LFs
>> > being optional elsewhere?
>>
>> Absolutely.  It is not "make" it optional, but "even though it is
>> optional, the receiver has not been following the spec, and it is
>> not too late to fix it".
>>
>> The earliest these documentation updates can hit the public is 2.6;
>> by that time I'd expect the deployed receivers would be fixed with
>> 2.5.1 and 2.4.7 maintenance releases.
>>
>> If some third-party reimplemented their client not to terminate
>> with LF, they wouldn't be working correctly with the deployed
>> servers right now *anyway*.  And with the more lenient receive-pack
>> in 2.5.1 or 2.4.7, they will start working.
>>
>> And we will not change our client to drop LF termination.  So
>> overall I do not see that it is too much a price to pay for
>> consistency across the protocol.
>
> Ok, I understand your proposal now, thank you. I will drop this
> documentation patch from this series, and abandon
> https://git.eclipse.org/r/51071 in JGit. I am not volunteering to
> rewrite push cert handling in git-core though ;)

Unfortunately, optional LFs still make the stored certs for later
auditing and parsing a bit illegible. This is one way in which push
certs are fundamentally different from the rest of the wire protocol,
which is not intended to be persisted.

The corner case I pointed out before where nonce runs into commands is
not the only one.

Consider the following cert fragment:
001fpushee git://localhost/repo
0029nonce 1433954361-bde756572d665bba81d8

A naive cert storage/auditing implementation would store the raw
payload that needs to be verified, without the pkt-line framing. In
this case:
pushee git://localhost/repononce 1433954361-bde756572d665bba81d8

A naive parser that wants to find the pushee would look for "pushee
<urlish>", which would be wrong in this case. (To say nothing of the
fact that "pushee" might actually be "-0700pushee".)

The alternatives for someone writing a parser are:
a. Store the original pkt-line framing.
b. Write a parser in some other clever way, e.g. parsing the entire
cert in reverse might work.

Neither of these is very satisfying, and both reduce human legibility
of the stored payload.

>> > If LF is optional, then with that approach you might end up with a
>> > section of that buffer like:
>>
>> I think I touched on this in my previous message.  You cannot send
>> an empty line anywhere, and this is not limited to push-cert section
>> of the protocol.  Strictly speaking, the wire level allows it, but I
>> do not think the deployed client APIs easily lets you deal with it.
>>
>> So you must follow the "SHOULD terminate with LF" for an empty line,
>> even when you choose to ignore the "SHOULD" in most other places.
>>
>> I do not think it is such a big loss, as long as it is properly
>> documented.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-06 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-01 18:08 [PATCH 0/7] Clarify signed push protocol documentation Dave Borowitz
2015-07-01 18:08 ` [PATCH 1/7] pack-protocol.txt: Add warning about protocol inaccuracies Dave Borowitz
2015-07-01 19:39   ` Jonathan Nieder
2015-07-01 19:52     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-01 19:56     ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-01 18:08 ` [PATCH 2/7] pack-protocol.txt: Mark LF in command-list as optional Dave Borowitz
2015-07-01 18:21   ` Stefan Beller
2015-07-01 18:46     ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-01 18:08 ` [PATCH 3/7] pack-protocol.txt: Mark all LFs in push-cert as required Dave Borowitz
2015-07-01 20:00   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-01 20:07     ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-01 20:49       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-06 14:46         ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-06 15:22           ` Dave Borowitz [this message]
2015-07-06 15:27             ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-06 15:29               ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-06 15:35             ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-06 16:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-06 15:46         ` Shawn Pearce
2015-07-06 16:28           ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-06 16:28           ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-06 16:38             ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-06 16:57               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-06 17:11                 ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-06 17:18                   ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-06 17:34                     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-06 17:38                       ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-06 18:06                         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-06 18:08                           ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-06 18:23                           ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-06 17:30                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-06 17:35                     ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-06 17:59                       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-01 20:36     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-01 20:39       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-02 13:53         ` Jeff King
2015-07-03 17:45           ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-03 18:07             ` Jeff King
2015-07-03 18:43               ` Shawn Pearce
2015-07-03 18:46                 ` Jeff King
2015-07-01 18:08 ` [PATCH 4/7] pack-protocol.txt: Elaborate on pusher identity Dave Borowitz
2015-07-01 18:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-01 18:08 ` [PATCH 5/7] pack-protocol.txt: Be more precise about pusher-key relationship Dave Borowitz
2015-07-01 18:08 ` [PATCH 6/7] pack-protocol.txt: Mark pushee field as optional Dave Borowitz
2015-07-01 18:56   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-01 19:06     ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-01 19:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-01 19:08       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-01 19:31       ` Dave Borowitz
2015-07-01 18:08 ` [PATCH 7/7] send-pack.c: Die if the nonce is empty Dave Borowitz

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