Google Summer of Code 2012... and git wiki

Google Summer of Code 2012... and git wiki

[Jakub Narebski]

Google Summer of Code 2012 has started.  The Git Development Community 
has time till March 9 to submit organization application.

The problem (beside finding volunteer for the position of GSoC 
administrator) is that both GSoC application and ideas for GSoC 
projects were hosted on Git Wiki... but Git Wiki is still only parially 
functional, available only as static pages under changed URLs.

I guess we can get by without having fully functional wiki for creating 
application (if we decide to apply), but it would need a forum to send 
ideas for GSoC projects and some place to publish them.  Editable wiki 
can work as both, though git mailing list and some static page (perhaps 
home pages for git project on GitHub?) could also work.


I don't know what are ETA on bringing Git Wiki fully up, but I doubt it 
would be possible at http://git.wiki.kernel.org -- it is more than two 
months since the event and wiki is not functional yet.  Perhaps it 
could be hosted at git-scm.com somewhere -  but it really should be 
true wiki, editable without need to use git.

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

Re: Google Summer of Code 2012... and git wiki

[Scott Chacon]

Hey,

2012/3/1 Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>:
> Google Summer of Code 2012 has started.  The Git Development Community
> has time till March 9 to submit organization application.
>
> The problem (beside finding volunteer for the position of GSoC
> administrator) is that both GSoC application and ideas for GSoC
> projects were hosted on Git Wiki... but Git Wiki is still only parially
> functional, available only as static pages under changed URLs.
>
> I guess we can get by without having fully functional wiki for creating
> application (if we decide to apply), but it would need a forum to send
> ideas for GSoC projects and some place to publish them.  Editable wiki
> can work as both, though git mailing list and some static page (perhaps
> home pages for git project on GitHub?) could also work.
>
>
> I don't know what are ETA on bringing Git Wiki fully up, but I doubt it
> would be possible at http://git.wiki.kernel.org -- it is more than two
> months since the event and wiki is not functional yet.  Perhaps it
> could be hosted at git-scm.com somewhere -  but it really should be
> true wiki, editable without need to use git.
>

I can probably set something up there, but I'm not sure if I can
import everything.  In the longer term (a month or two) I will have a
full wiki import running on that domain, but in the next few weeks we
might want to just setup a temp wiki somewhere to pull together the
ideas and I can link to it from git-scm.com

Scott

Re: Google Summer of Code 2012... and git wiki

[Andrew Ardill]

On 2 March 2012 10:33, Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> 2012/3/1 Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>:
>> Google Summer of Code 2012 has started.  The Git Development Community
>> has time till March 9 to submit organization application.
>>
>> The problem (beside finding volunteer for the position of GSoC
>> administrator) is that both GSoC application and ideas for GSoC
>> projects were hosted on Git Wiki... but Git Wiki is still only parially
>> functional, available only as static pages under changed URLs.
>>
>> I guess we can get by without having fully functional wiki for creating
>> application (if we decide to apply), but it would need a forum to send
>> ideas for GSoC projects and some place to publish them.  Editable wiki
>> can work as both, though git mailing list and some static page (perhaps
>> home pages for git project on GitHub?) could also work.
>>
>>
>> I don't know what are ETA on bringing Git Wiki fully up, but I doubt it
>> would be possible at http://git.wiki.kernel.org -- it is more than two
>> months since the event and wiki is not functional yet.  Perhaps it
>> could be hosted at git-scm.com somewhere -  but it really should be
>> true wiki, editable without need to use git.
>>
>
> I can probably set something up there, but I'm not sure if I can
> import everything.  In the longer term (a month or two) I will have a
> full wiki import running on that domain, but in the next few weeks we
> might want to just setup a temp wiki somewhere to pull together the
> ideas and I can link to it from git-scm.com

I'm not at all sure if it is what we want in general, but it is
extremely simple for me to spin up a Confluence wiki side-by-side the
JIRA instance. If we need something now it can be done in a matter of
minutes, not sure of the feasibility of using it long term (I think it
could work long term, but I am not pushing for that at all).

There are numerous ways to export data from Confluence, but if we
anticipate that being an issue we should investigate before using it.

In fact, it's so easy to enable the Wiki that I have gone ahead and
done so, in case you want to investigate it.

Regards,

Andrew Ardill

Re: Google Summer of Code 2012... and git wiki

[Jeff King]

On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 12:27:40AM +0100, Jakub Narebski wrote:

> Google Summer of Code 2012 has started.  The Git Development Community 
> has time till March 9 to submit organization application.
> 
> The problem (beside finding volunteer for the position of GSoC 
> administrator) is that both GSoC application and ideas for GSoC 
> projects were hosted on Git Wiki... but Git Wiki is still only parially 
> functional, available only as static pages under changed URLs.

I can be GSoC administrator again if nobody else wants to do it (and
probably Shawn as co-admin again). On my todo list for tonight is
actually starting and posting a draft application.

I'm perfectly happy if somebody else wants to take over the position.
It's mostly boring, and aside from coordinating the proposal ranking
process, not even all that much work (the real work is done by the
mentors).

> I guess we can get by without having fully functional wiki for creating 
> application (if we decide to apply), but it would need a forum to send 
> ideas for GSoC projects and some place to publish them.  Editable wiki 
> can work as both, though git mailing list and some static page (perhaps 
> home pages for git project on GitHub?) could also work.

My plan was to just solicit feedback from the mailing list. Though I
think I may throw the work into a repo or even a GitHub wiki to make
small edits simpler for people who want to contribute. If last year is
any indication, about 3-4 people will come up with comments. So just
taking patches or incorporating their suggestions manually would
probably be acceptable.

> I don't know what are ETA on bringing Git Wiki fully up, but I doubt it 
> would be possible at http://git.wiki.kernel.org -- it is more than two 
> months since the event and wiki is not functional yet.  Perhaps it 
> could be hosted at git-scm.com somewhere -  but it really should be 
> true wiki, editable without need to use git.

FWIW, I really like the GitHub wikis, because they are backed by git. So
you can choose whether to use the web interface or not. And you can
write in a variety of markup languages, including mediawiki, though when
I tried importing the old git wiki many moons ago, I noticed that the
formatting of many of the pages was not quite right.

-Peff

Re: Google Summer of Code 2012... and git wiki

[David Barr]

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 12:27:40AM +0100, Jakub Narebski wrote:
>
>> Google Summer of Code 2012 has started.  The Git Development Community
>> has time till March 9 to submit organization application.

>> I don't know what are ETA on bringing Git Wiki fully up, but I doubt it
>> would be possible at http://git.wiki.kernel.org -- it is more than two
>> months since the event and wiki is not functional yet.  Perhaps it
>> could be hosted at git-scm.com somewhere -  but it really should be
>> true wiki, editable without need to use git.
>
> FWIW, I really like the GitHub wikis, because they are backed by git. So
> you can choose whether to use the web interface or not. And you can
> write in a variety of markup languages, including mediawiki, though when
> I tried importing the old git wiki many moons ago, I noticed that the
> formatting of many of the pages was not quite right.

Since we are enumerating the options, I'll mention that
code.google.com also has wiki support and that the wiki content is
exposed as a git remote.

  git clone https://code.google.com/p/git-mirror.wiki/

I'm not sure how the syntax compares to mediawiki and friends.

  http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/WikiSyntax

--
David Barr.