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From: Jay Soffian <jaysoffian@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] Add multiple workdir support to branch/checkout
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:11:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG+J_Dzg2D+vmFRfLX01S2k98YZQBE0FFv76VAyPnXdetyWADQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vzkhf713u.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:

> Careful. Git has survived without your patch series till now, as people
> learned to be careful when they use separate workdirs and avoid certain
> things, to the point that they are not necessarily aware that they are
> avoiding them (one good practice is to keep the HEADs of non-primary
> workdirs detached).

I think it's more likely the case that most people have avoided
new-workdir entirely.

Also, while I might recommend new-workdir to my coworkers with the
advice "don't checkout the same branch in multiple workdirs", never in
a million years would I say "use new-workdir, but make sure to only
use a detached HEAD in the workdirs." The latter would make their
actual HEADs explode. :-)

> For example, you checkout branch frotz in a workdir, and then in the
> primary repository that has nitfol branch checked out, you rename the
> frotz branch to xyzzy. The HEAD of workdir still says refs/heads/frotz
> that no longer exist. Of course you can break the same way by doing a
> "update-ref -d refs/heads/frotz" from the primary repository.
>
> Because you forgot that the high level operation "branch renaming" needs
> to be aware of that "this branch is checked out elsewhere" information,
> you allowed it to break the workdir. If you hooked into lower level
> machinery that is shared, you wouldn't have caused this breakage.
> Similarly, if delete_ref() were taught about the new requirement, you
> would have covered both "branch -d" and "update-ref -d".

I did not forget, I just hadn't gotten there yet while this was still
an RFC/PATCH.

Another issue to resolve is what happens when the workdir or repo are
moved in the filesystem. And making prune aware of HEAD reflogs in the
alternate workdirs.

> I do not necessarily think that it is a good approach to forbid the same
> branch to be checked out in two different places, by the way. One reason
> people would want to keep multiple workdirs is so that while they are
> still working on a branch and are not yet at a good "stop point" to even
> make a temporary commit to get interrupted, they find it sometimes
> necessary to be able to build the tip of that same branch and even make a
> small in-working-tree fixes (which later will be carried back to the
> primary branch). The problem arises only when one of the repositories try
> to update or delete the branch while it is checked out in another working
> tree.

That is not at all my experience of how workdirs are used.

> Can this series be extended/reworked so that:
>
>  - Each branch has multi-value configuration record to note the workdirs
>   that it is checked out;

This is a good idea in any case for when "checkout --force" is used
(see below), so that we can find all the workdirs for other operations
that may need to.

>  - Error out (or warn if forced) upon any attempt to update the tip of a
>   branch that is checked out in more than one place; and

I think that's a worse user experience. "Sorry, can't commit your
changes because you've checked out this branch elsewhere." Now the
user's choices are:

1. commit --force (and thus confusing the other workdirs)
2. checkout -b new_branch && commit

Both of which I think are worse than preventing the checkout in the first place.

>  - Similarly for renaming or deleting a branch that is checked out in more
>   than one place.

Yep.

j.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-05 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-05  3:43 [RFC/PATCH] Add multiple workdir support to branch/checkout Jay Soffian
2011-10-05  3:48 ` Jay Soffian
2011-10-05  4:02 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-10-05 13:11   ` Jay Soffian
2011-10-05 16:46     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-05 17:17       ` Jay Soffian
2011-10-05 18:19         ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-05 19:11           ` Jay Soffian [this message]
2011-10-05 20:00             ` Andreas Krey
2011-10-05 20:50               ` Jay Soffian
2011-10-05 21:30                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-10-05 21:52                   ` Jay Soffian
2011-10-05 21:57                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-10-05 21:29             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-05 21:49               ` Jay Soffian
2011-10-05 19:14           ` Jay Soffian
2011-10-05 22:47           ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-10-05 22:56             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-05 23:11               ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-10-05 23:49                 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-06  0:33                   ` Jay Soffian
2011-10-06  0:43                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-06  0:57                       ` Jay Soffian
2011-10-06  1:15                         ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-06  1:38                           ` Jay Soffian
2011-10-06  1:57                             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-06  4:02                               ` Jay Soffian
2011-10-06  2:06                   ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-10-06 11:25           ` Bernhard R. Link
2011-10-06 14:42           ` Jeff King
2011-10-05 22:38       ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2011-10-05  4:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-10-05 15:24   ` Jay Soffian
2011-10-05 16:01     ` Jay Soffian
2011-10-08 22:55 ` Julián Landerreche

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