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From: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
To: Sebastian Schuberth <sschuberth@gmail.com>
Cc: "git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Jens Lehmann <Jens.Lehmann@web.de>,
	Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Submodule Groups
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 13:56:16 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGZ79ka+LZHRjVB8bZ4u+-n-U06mUWsbx9nRVCvd4aPwrb7yHQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56A14AD4.6040608@gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Sebastian Schuberth
<sschuberth@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 20.01.2016 04:34, Stefan Beller wrote:
>
>> So you could have a .gitmodules file such as:
>>
>> [submodule "gcc"]
>>          path = gcc
>>          url = git://...
>>          groups = default
>>          groups = devel
>
> On the quick I was unable to find the rationale why entries are now stored as separated lines compared to v1. I liked the comma-separated approach better as it's more compact.

IIUC the line oriented way is preferred as it is our standard. Do we
have any other options stored as a comma separated list?

>
> Anyway, if it's only one group per line, I'd find it more fitting to call the entry "group" instead of "groups" as it will always refer to a single group only. Also that would better match the "--group" command line option naming for "submodule add".

Makes sense to use singular then. However per discussion with Junio in
[PATCH 3/4] submodule update: Initialize all group-selected submodules
by default, we want to not name it "group", as it's unclear what a group is
supposed to mean. What does a group do? which operations are supported?

So for git clone, we'd rather use "--init-submodule" which can be passed a
name, path or group.

For storing that selection we'd go with "submodule.autoInitialize" in
.git /config.

The third user visible place submodule.$NAME.group however can stay in that
variable name as to point out the the concept of a submodule set/collection.
The groups concept may be used in the future for more than initialzing
submodules.

Instead of having a submodule -> set assignment, we could do it the
other way round:

     [submodule "gcc"]
         ...

     [submodule-set "default"]
        submodule = gcc
        submodule = foo
        submodule = by/path/*

This may be more handy from our perspective (while designing it and
writing the code),
but I'd assume this is less useful for the user. How often does a user ask:
"How many/Which submodules are in $GROUP" as opposed to "What about
submodule foo,
is that part of group $GROUP?"

>
> However, if I'd read the single line "group = default" in a .gitmodules file, it wouldn't be immediately clear to me that "group" can appear multiple times per submodule. "groups = default" would me more hinting is this regard because the plural is used, but without reading the docs I'd assume multiple groups would be specified like "groups = default,devel".
>
> Long story short, my personal favorite still would be
>
> [submodule "gcc"]
>          groups = default,devel
>
> followed by
>
> [submodule "gcc"]
>          group = default
>          group = devel

As asked above, how many comma separated things do we have in git configs?
I'd really not want to add more mental complexity to Git. As far as I
remember we have
rather double configs than one long line separated somehow.
(The only thing that comes to mind is multiple remote urls for pushing)

Thanks,
Stefan

>
> --
> Sebastian Schuberth

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-21 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-20  3:34 [PATCH 0/4] Submodule Groups Stefan Beller
2016-01-20  3:34 ` [PATCH 1/4] git submodule: Teach add to accept --group Stefan Beller
2016-01-20 21:18   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-01-20 23:57     ` Stefan Beller
2016-01-21  0:08       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-01-21  0:16         ` Stefan Beller
2016-01-21  4:45           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-01-20  3:34 ` [PATCH 2/4] submodule-config: keep groups around Stefan Beller
2016-01-20 21:23   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-01-21  0:20     ` Stefan Beller
2016-01-21  2:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-01-20  3:34 ` [PATCH 3/4] submodule update: Initialize all group-selected submodules by default Stefan Beller
2016-01-20 21:30   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-01-21  1:44     ` Stefan Beller
2016-01-21  4:40       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-01-21 19:39         ` Stefan Beller
2016-01-21 20:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-01-21 20:57             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-01-20  3:34 ` [PATCH 4/4] builtin/clone: support submodule groups Stefan Beller
2016-01-20 21:43   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-01-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 0/4] Submodule Groups Sebastian Schuberth
2016-01-21 21:56   ` Stefan Beller [this message]
2016-01-21 22:18     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-01-21 22:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-01-21 22:30       ` Stefan Beller
2016-01-21 22:37         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-01-22  8:55     ` Sebastian Schuberth

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