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From: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
To: Jens Lehmann <Jens.Lehmann@web.de>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] add test to demonstrate that shallow recursive clones fail
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 12:49:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGZ79kaiWSyXUG_mgUcqt6Mpuj_1EhNOTyG-7NL=28vvi770jA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <564B9091.7070902@web.de>

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Jens Lehmann <Jens.Lehmann@web.de> wrote:
> Am 17.11.2015 um 21:04 schrieb Stefan Beller:
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Jens Lehmann <Jens.Lehmann@web.de>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> But for quite some time you'll have older servers out there that
>>> don't support fetching a single sha1 or aren't configured to do so.
>>
>>
>> Only when talking about the open source side. If you have all the
>> submodules/superprojects on your companies mirror, you can control
>> the git installations there.
>
>
> Sure. But that doesn't mean we should make life harder for the open
> source side, no? We'll have to support both for quite some time.
>
>>> Wouldn't it be better to give the user an appropriate warning and
>>> fall back to cloning everything for those submodules while using the
>>> optimized new method for all others and the superproject? Otherwise
>>> you won't be able to limit the depth if only a single submodule
>>> server doesn't support fetching a single sha1.
>>>
>>
>> I think warnings are fine, but no fallbacks. The warning could look like:
>>
>>      Server for submodule <foo> doesn't support fetching by sha1.
>>      Fetch again without depth argument.
>>
>> and keep going with the other submodules. This would allow the user
>> to make an informed decision if they want to have the fallback solution
>> (which requires more band width, disk space)
>
>
> No, this is a regression. This worked before but now some submodules
> are missing from the clone. And if that happens inside a Jenkins
> script I doubt that Jenkins can make an informed decision, that job
> will simply fail.
>
>> On the other hand, that's what people do today, so it's not that bad
>> either,
>> so I guess falling bad would work too.
>
>
> Not that bad? I don't see any other sane way. Don't break formerly
> working use cases without a very good reason. Fall back to what we
> did before (even if it is suboptimal) and only then use the new
> optimized (and admittedly better) feature when it is available.

I assumed we'd have yet another flag to activate the new behavior,
but if you want to roll out that new feature as a default, I agree on
needing the fallback.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-17 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-12  9:37 [PATCH v2] add test to demonstrate that shallow recursive clones fail larsxschneider
2015-11-12 23:34 ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-15 12:43   ` Lars Schneider
2015-11-13  5:35 ` Jeff King
2015-11-13 18:41   ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-13 23:16     ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-13 23:38       ` Jeff King
2015-11-13 23:41         ` Jeff King
2015-11-14  0:10           ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-16 18:59             ` Jens Lehmann
2015-11-16 19:25               ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-16 21:42                 ` Jens Lehmann
2015-11-16 22:56                   ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-17 19:46                     ` Jens Lehmann
2015-11-17 20:04                       ` Stefan Beller
2015-11-17 20:39                         ` Jens Lehmann
2015-11-17 20:49                           ` Stefan Beller [this message]
2015-11-17 21:00                             ` Jens Lehmann
2015-11-17 20:17                 ` Duy Nguyen
2015-11-17 21:43                   ` Jeff King
2015-11-18 12:32                     ` Duy Nguyen
2015-11-18 21:11                       ` Jeff King
2015-11-18 21:36                         ` Stefan Beller
     [not found]                           ` <CAOE36qj2m4e3hw73-QoLbbpGv4RiyhBt_ou7eN4i4q8pF15rdA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-11-19 13:58                             ` Jeff King
2015-11-30 18:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-01  0:47         ` Stefan Beller
2015-12-01 12:15           ` Duy Nguyen
2015-12-01 21:47             ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-01 22:22               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-03 20:03                 ` Stefan Beller
2015-12-04 15:32                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-04 16:15                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-04  7:52                 ` Duy Nguyen
2015-11-15 12:53   ` Lars Schneider
2015-11-17 21:34     ` Jeff King

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