From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8503C20193 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 23:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1034250AbcJ0XQx (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Oct 2016 19:16:53 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-f52.google.com ([209.85.213.52]:33776 "EHLO mail-vk0-f52.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1034173AbcJ0XQw (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Oct 2016 19:16:52 -0400 Received: by mail-vk0-f52.google.com with SMTP id d65so13306057vkg.0 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 16:16:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=m2y1u+XVtNM9jczfxHgE9j4SxeoThMmFCfmvfd1qE8M=; b=c7pwHbRK8kSQwRN9n6n4uJbRkdGycyzhXtjJuXbM+O3uAJDh41FS3AcMpOAhzMzYkj l8k4k+DTgGLHvLqEIK1vsTF+YiFqlaBpM5zp11w35u7z77t//0BTPLs6wureItFTSq4P KavB7dbhHAoOvyK0IIQqLiiU0YV76CNJNFDoNbcV0p8E/TZePXR1MyeAXwyqXUt3LXv3 BoaY3fnaM/nHLnilv96DLzrfSbklgI/JD6RyEuslxzCuBEVAEkLhc2h65FeewJUKaseu /YQKu+CgCfim/Sj5a/viDpYxtDWijBuUukb44+XD6cZO9POUDy3YKX/q9k4XgM+zRgFJ Ry4Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=m2y1u+XVtNM9jczfxHgE9j4SxeoThMmFCfmvfd1qE8M=; b=SR5FMd9iuzAjrPB5nRGJBLVJoR0X4SA2C21qHehqDzB+G/PiJY1OG1TjFlot6viplW idblfogFsqmnH7ExqrS3qX78pFZpxxiaAQyZmX4IbnYD6DNhpp5sCTDdry4N1R2ZmP2R e6ExkK75s3W3+guPQupzNxEEPREnACCPyKvIyiGBGO1+2Lsrpnr94LEd59yDMZaxEoFu /2qaA30hf2ah0rI9AwCaH+kfVwWW38g6eCnC+6r5Oxgacd4kzam9QLw7YmehhfNmBUL+ DkZ3+Dm5ZiONkn1orabWPKGjXD9+h14xSweImHb5yhKkUF53G0rJo90UVOuAAgkou0R/ BBjg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvcb/0JFVIv2P9wcKi1DYcJFn7scqhYBp7W5LCaUhGXUz+r/WQKnql/v6BVrHlxqDuCYIhOBgHrG7gWPUA== X-Received: by 10.31.133.130 with SMTP id h124mr9815052vkd.24.1477610211596; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 16:16:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.205.131 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 16:16:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: John Rood Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 18:16:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: feature request To: Junio C Hamano Cc: Stefan Beller , "git@vger.kernel.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Thanks. I wasn't aware of --no-edit, but that is indeed exactly what I was looking for. I think your point about encouraging users to make good use of commit messages is good. My concern though is that vim isn't encouraging users to leave good messages as much as it is scaring them away from leaving messages at all. On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > John Rood writes: > > [administrivia: do not top post] > >> What I'm really seeking is not a make-shift solution for myself, but >> an intuitive solution for the novice user-base at large. > > Well, there are -m and --no-edit. Recording commits with useless > single liner is a bad habit to get into, and change to encourage > novice user-base at large to do so is not a good idea.