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From: "D. Ben Knoble" <ben.knoble@gmail.com>
To: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Cc: Todd Zullinger <tmz@pobox.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] Spring cleanup of "contrib/"
Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 16:07:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALnO6CDp3Kr_Ma49jzftN_sMkOU95xGZ0sMe2J2boG2pWggCzQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPig+cRxDQBmPu_-ci5vEuwtsAHadfCiFOccdYseBSj2F52JGw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 11:55 PM Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 9:32 PM Todd Zullinger <tmz@pobox.com> wrote:
> > Eric Sunshine wrote:
> > > Although we periodically hear that someone uses it, git-contacts
> > > probably falls into the "tool has a clear alternative" category. In
> > > this case, git-related[*] is a separately-maintained more functional
> > > drop-in replacement which people could be using instead of
> > > git-contacts.
> > >
> > > [*]: https://github.com/felipec/git-related/blob/master/git-related
> >
> > It may be worth noting that git-contacts is suggested in
> > both MyFirstContribution.adoc and SubmittingPatches.
>
> I think I knew but forgot about those mentions. Certainly useful
> information if Patrick decides to pursue retirement of git-contacts.
>
> > It probably helps that since 824503ce88 (SubmittingPatches:
> > clarify 'git-contacts' location, 2024-04-18) there has been
> > a note stating this isn't "part of the core `git` binary and
> > must be called directly." That is relatively recent, though.
>
> Out of curiosity, I Googled git-contacts but didn't find any
> meaningful hits. Pretty much the only pages found were renderings of
> Git's documentation (including SubmittingPatches and the man page for
> git-contacts itself), as well as the few patches to the Git mailing
> list which introduced or touched git-contacts over the years. I did
> not find any general discussion or recommendations to use
> git-contacts, so perhaps it indeed is not very much used.
>
> > I added git-contacts to the Fedora git packaging shortly
> > after 92a5dbbc22 (SubmittingPatches: mention the git
> > contacts command, 2018-04-11), presuming some readers would
> > want to use it.  (I never want to penalize users who are
> > diligent enough to read SubmittingPatches. :)
> >
> > All that said, I don't have any strong opinion on whether it
> > is kept or removed, let alone when that might happen.  I
> > don't know that I've ever used it, other than for testing
> > that it worked while packaging it.
>
> I've never used git-contacts either, despite the fact that I'm the one
> who ported Felipe's git-related from Ruby[1] to Perl[2] for inclusion
> in Git's "contrib" since the Ruby version had been rejected due to
> being written in a language not already employed elsewhere in the
> project. The Perl rewrite also included a number of useful
> enhancements which Felipe later incorporated into git-related after he
> published it as a standalone project. He has since extended it to
> include even more features, so it's functionally a superset of
> git-contacts.

On a related note, installing git-related seems like rather more work
than using git-contacts [1]: I have to keep a Ruby environment with
the right gem working since I don't see this packaged anywhere.
Keeping a Perl or Ruby environment working (at least for me) has been
enough trouble as it is, heh.

[1]: https://github.com/felipec/git-related#installation

Not that we couldn't drop the script, but ideally the replacement is
an easy install (since, e.g., some of us use git-contacts as a ccCmd
per the documentation).

>
> By the way, Felipe also sent a patch series[3] eleven years ago with
> the same intention of Patrick's series under discussion. Felipe's
> series was never picked up but did undertake the retirement of
> git-contacts.
>
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/1369986380-412-1-git-send-email-felipe.contreras@gmail.com/
> [2]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/1374403962-48361-1-git-send-email-sunshine@sunshineco.com/
> [3]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/1399662703-355-1-git-send-email-felipe.contreras@gmail.com/T/
>


-- 
D. Ben Knoble

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-10 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-06 14:12 [PATCH 00/10] Spring cleanup of "contrib/" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 01/10] contrib: remove "remotes2config.sh" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 19:52   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07  6:27     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07 17:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 02/10] contrib: remove "examples" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 03/10] contrib: remove remote-helper stubs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 04/10] contrib: remove "thunderbird-patch-inline" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 05/10] contrib: remove "hooks" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 06/10] contrib: remove "mw-to-git" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 20:34   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07  9:11     ` Matthieu Moy
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 07/10] contrib: remove "persistent-https" remote helper Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 20:25   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 08/10] contrib: remove "git-resurrect.sh" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 20:11   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07  6:58     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07 17:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07 18:36     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 09/10] contrib: remove "emacs" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 19:59   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 10/10] contrib: remove "git-new-workdir" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 19:57   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07  6:27     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07 17:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-09  7:53         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 20:43 ` [PATCH 00/10] Spring cleanup of "contrib/" Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06 22:51   ` Eric Sunshine
2025-05-07  1:32     ` Todd Zullinger
2025-05-07  3:55       ` Eric Sunshine
2025-05-07  6:27         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-10 20:07         ` D. Ben Knoble [this message]
2025-05-12 13:10           ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-09  9:17 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09  9:17   ` [PATCH v2 01/11] contrib: remove "remotes2config.sh" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09  9:17   ` [PATCH v2 02/11] contrib: remove "examples" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09  9:17   ` [PATCH v2 03/11] contrib: remove remote-helper stubs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09  9:17   ` [PATCH v2 04/11] contrib: remove "thunderbird-patch-inline" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09  9:17   ` [PATCH v2 05/11] contrib: remove "hooks" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09  9:17   ` [PATCH v2 06/11] contrib: remove "mw-to-git" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09  9:17   ` [PATCH v2 07/11] contrib: remove "persistent-https" remote helper Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09  9:17   ` [PATCH v2 08/11] contrib: remove "git-resurrect.sh" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09  9:17   ` [PATCH v2 09/11] contrib: remove "emacs" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09  9:17   ` [PATCH v2 10/11] contrib: remove "git-new-workdir" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09  9:17   ` [PATCH v2 11/11] contrib: remove "stats" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 23:31     ` Elijah Newren
2025-05-09 23:53   ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Spring cleanup of "contrib/" Elijah Newren
2025-05-10  0:00     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-12  9:39     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12  4:05   ` [PATCH v2 04/11] contrib: remove "thunderbird-patch-inline" Collin Funk
2025-05-12 13:02     ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-12 14:45       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 16:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-14 15:19         ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-16 13:53       ` [PATCH v2] contrib: update thunderbird-patch-inline Phillip Wood
2025-05-16 14:05         ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-05-19  5:38         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-19  5:50           ` Collin Funk
2025-05-19 14:21           ` Phillip Wood
2025-06-03 22:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-19 15:48           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-10 12:30 ` [PATCH 00/10] Spring cleanup of "contrib/" Peter Krefting
2025-05-12  9:19 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12  9:19   ` [PATCH v3 01/11] contrib: remove "remotes2config.sh" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12  9:19   ` [PATCH v3 02/11] contrib: remove "examples" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12  9:19   ` [PATCH v3 03/11] contrib: remove remote-helper stubs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12  9:19   ` [PATCH v3 04/11] contrib: remove "thunderbird-patch-inline" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-16 22:49     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-26  8:47       ` Toon Claes
2025-06-04 14:45       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-12  9:19   ` [PATCH v3 05/11] contrib: remove "hooks" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12  9:19   ` [PATCH v3 06/11] contrib: remove "mw-to-git" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12  9:19   ` [PATCH v3 07/11] contrib: remove "persistent-https" remote helper Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12  9:19   ` [PATCH v3 08/11] contrib: remove "git-resurrect.sh" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12  9:19   ` [PATCH v3 09/11] contrib: remove "emacs" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12  9:20   ` [PATCH v3 10/11] contrib: remove "git-new-workdir" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-08  9:28     ` Gabriel Scherer
2025-09-08  9:58       ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-08 15:22         ` Gabriel Scherer
2025-09-12 18:14           ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-09-12 18:55             ` Gabriel Scherer
2025-09-12 22:21               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-12 20:05           ` Phillip Wood
2025-09-12 22:19             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-08 18:43         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-12  9:20   ` [PATCH v3 11/11] contrib: remove some scripts in "stats" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-13  2:53   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Spring cleanup of "contrib/" Elijah Newren

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