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From: Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Carlos Martín Nieto" <cmn@elego.de>,
	vra5107 <venkatram.akkineni@gmail.com>,
	"Michael J Gruber" <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>,
	"Matthieu Moy" <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>,
	"Eric Raible" <raible@nextest.com>,
	"Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.org>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>, "Jay Soffian" <jaysoffian@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation/git-checkout.txt: Explain --orphan without introducing an undefined "orphan branch"
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:02:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMOZ1Btx24SmvmwONvOAz_rGTOiipqDND+9LUpngOrJhdis48g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7v39fftbt0.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 18:59, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> The name of the `--orphan` option to `checkout` is meant to express that
> the next commit made on the branch does not have any parent (specifically,
> it will not be a child of the current nor start_point commit), but the
> glossary calls such a commit 'a root commit'. The explanation however used
> an undefined term 'orphan branch', adding mental burden to the first time
> readers.
>
> Reword the description to clarify what it does without introducing a new
> term, stressing that it is similar to what happens to the "master' branch
> in a brand new repository created by `git init`. Also explain that it is
> OK to tweak the index and the working tree before creating a commit.
>
> Also mildly discourage the users from using this to originate a new root
> commit that tracks material that is unrelated to the main branches in a
> single repository with a working tree, and hint a better way of starting
> an unrelated history, as it seems to be a common abuse of this option.
>
> We may want to give a synonym `--new-root` to this option and eventually
> deprecate the `--orphan` option, as "parent vs orphan" might not
> immediately "click" to non native speakers of English (like myself), but
> that is a separate topic.
>
> Signed-off-by: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
> ---
>
>  * I am inclined to suggest doing something like this instead.
>
>  Documentation/git-checkout.txt |   26 ++++++++++++++------------
>  1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/git-checkout.txt b/Documentation/git-checkout.txt
> index c0a96e6..63d164e 100644
> --- a/Documentation/git-checkout.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/git-checkout.txt
> @@ -125,16 +125,16 @@ explicitly give a name with '-b' in such a case.
>        below for details.
>
>  --orphan::
> -       Create a new 'orphan' branch, named <new_branch>, started from
> -       <start_point> and switch to it.  The first commit made on this
> -       new branch will have no parents and it will be the root of a new
> -       history totally disconnected from all the other branches and
> -       commits.
> +       Adjust the working tree and the index as if you checked out the
> +       <start_point>. The next commit begins a history that is not connected
> +       to any other branches, as if you ran `git init` in a new repository,
> +       except that the commit will be made on the <new_branch> branch, not on
> +       the "master" branch.
>  +
> -The index and the working tree are adjusted as if you had previously run
> -"git checkout <start_point>".  This allows you to start a new history
> -that records a set of paths similar to <start_point> by easily running
> -"git commit -a" to make the root commit.
> +Running "git commit" immediately after doing this will record a root commit
> +with a tree that is the same as the tree of the <start_point>. You may
> +manipulate the index before creating the commit to record a tree that is
> +different from that of the <start_point>.
>  +
>  This can be useful when you want to publish the tree from a commit
>  without exposing its full history. You might want to do this to publish
> @@ -143,11 +143,13 @@ whose full history contains proprietary or otherwise encumbered bits of
>  code.
>  +
>  If you want to start a disconnected history that records a set of paths
> -that is totally different from the one of <start_point>, then you should
> -clear the index and the working tree right after creating the orphan
> -branch by running "git rm -rf ." from the top level of the working tree.
> +that is totally different from the one of <start_point>, you could
> +clear the index and the working tree right after "git checkout --orphan"
> +by running "git rm -rf ." from the top level of the working tree.
>  Afterwards you will be ready to prepare your new files, repopulating the
>  working tree, by copying them from elsewhere, extracting a tarball, etc.
> +However, such a use case to keep track of a history that is unrelated to
> +the main project is better done by starting a new, separate repository.
>
>  -m::
>  --merge::
>

Fsck-you-by: Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-29 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-25 14:15 Can a git changeset be created with no parent vra5107
2011-09-25 14:33 ` Andreas Ericsson
2011-09-25 14:33 ` Carlos Martín Nieto
2011-09-26 19:25   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-26 21:41     ` Carlos Martín Nieto
2011-09-27 14:43       ` [PATCH] Docs: git checkout --orphan: `root commit' and `branch head' Michael Witten
2011-09-27 15:02         ` Matthieu Moy
2011-09-27 15:46           ` [PATCH v2] " Michael Witten
2011-09-27 16:01             ` Matthieu Moy
2011-09-27 16:13               ` Michael Witten
2011-09-27 16:53                 ` Matthieu Moy
2011-09-27 17:09                   ` Michael Witten
2011-09-27 20:59               ` Philip Oakley
2011-09-28 16:23                 ` [PATCH v3] " Michael Witten
2011-09-28 20:34                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-29 15:52                     ` Michael Witten
2011-09-29 15:44                       ` [PATCH v4] Docs: git checkout --orphan: Copyedit, and s/root commit/orphan branch/ Michael Witten
2011-09-29 16:44                         ` Michael Witten
2011-09-29 20:05                         ` Philip Oakley
2011-09-29 18:11                       ` In favor of "git commit --no-parent" Junio C Hamano
2011-09-29 18:52                         ` Michael Witten
2011-09-29 18:59                         ` [PATCH] Documentation/git-checkout.txt: Explain --orphan without introducing an undefined "orphan branch" Junio C Hamano
2011-09-29 19:02                           ` Michael Witten [this message]
2011-09-29 21:02                         ` In favor of "git commit --no-parent" Phil Hord
2011-09-29 21:28                           ` Michael Witten
2011-09-29 21:50                             ` Phil Hord
2011-09-29 22:01                               ` Michael Witten
     [not found]                         ` <CABURp0q8YhTS-GDYOANEa19P-V2wf_EUTo=RHqnhDB619w=y-w@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                           ` <7vd3ejrqin.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>
2011-09-29 21:54                             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-29 22:07                               ` Phil Hord
2011-09-29 22:29                                 ` Michael Witten
2011-09-29 22:32                                   ` Michael Witten
2011-09-29 23:08                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-30  0:51                                   ` Michael Witten
2011-09-30  2:28                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-29 22:07                               ` Michael Witten
2011-09-27 15:49         ` [PATCH] Docs: git checkout --orphan: `root commit' and `branch head' Michael J Gruber
2011-09-27 16:02           ` Michael Witten
2011-09-27 17:25             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-27 17:50               ` Michael Witten
2011-09-27 20:34               ` Eric Raible
2011-09-27 21:31                 ` Philip Oakley
2011-09-27 21:42                   ` Jeff King
2011-09-27 23:28                     ` Michael Witten
2011-09-27 23:35                       ` Jeff King
2011-09-27 23:44                         ` Michael Witten
2011-09-28  0:32                         ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-28 13:40                           ` Michael Witten
2011-09-28 13:45                             ` Matthieu Moy
2011-09-28 13:50                               ` Michael Witten
2011-09-28 14:09                                 ` Matthieu Moy
2011-09-28 14:35                                   ` Michael Witten
2011-09-28 14:45                                     ` Matthieu Moy
2011-09-28 15:06                                       ` Michael Witten
2011-09-28 18:17                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2011-09-28  4:04               ` Jay Soffian
2011-09-28  4:37                 ` Michael Witten
2011-09-28  8:00               ` Michael J Gruber

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