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From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Git <git@vger.kernel.org>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add project-wide .vimrc configuration
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 02:52:57 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMP44s1vJj6QJjS8ApM_wiVunPo6093_4M-ghJB_PTqZhnmm0A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqh7ov2y97.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 2:13 AM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> writes:
>
> >> *2* In other words, I doubt these graphs are depicting "how widely
> >> is an editor used by developers".  It is just showing how often it
> >> is installed, and I know the primary workstation I use daily has vim
> >> and nano installed without me choosing to have them, as opposed to
> >> emacs I had to manually install, and I only use vim once every month
> >> and nano once every quarter.
> >
> > Yes, but in Arch Linux at least no editor is installed by default.
>
> I thought everybody has nano not because it is adequate and usable
> for them, but because it comes by default with distros, and distro
> in turn choose nano not because it is particularly popular but is
> small enough not to matter if left behind unused when the user
> chooses a real editor.
>
> But you are essentially usaying that 80% of Arch users install nano
> by choice.  I find it doubly surprising.

I double checked. The installation instructions [1] do tell you to
pick an editor, and they don't suggest any.

I am half-surprised. The StackOverflow question "How do I exit the Vim
editor?" has 2.2 million views [2], there's countless memes about that
ordeal [3], and the SO team even found it wise to write a blog post
about it [4]. I don't know how to exit emacs (Ctrl-X Ctrl-e?), and I
suspect many emacs users don't know how to exit vim.

Nano doesn't have this problem. Which means for somebody entering the
world of Linux, that's a plus.

Cheers.

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide#Install_essential_packages
[2] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11828270/how-do-i-exit-the-vim-editor
[3] https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/993821761648103425
[4] https://stackoverflow.blog/2017/05/23/stack-overflow-helping-one-million-developers-exit-vim/


--
Felipe Contreras

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-09  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-09  0:26 [PATCH] Add project-wide .vimrc configuration Felipe Contreras
2020-12-09  1:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-09  2:32   ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-09  1:18 ` Aaron Schrab
2020-12-09  3:15   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-09  6:28   ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-09  1:32 ` Denton Liu
2020-12-09  6:20   ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-09  2:23 ` brian m. carlson
2020-12-09  6:36   ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-09  6:54     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-09  7:16       ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-09  8:13         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-09  8:52           ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2020-12-09 16:18           ` Randall S. Becker

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