From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD7AC4167B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2020 08:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075F723609 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2020 08:53:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726693AbgLIIxu (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Dec 2020 03:53:50 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:40960 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725942AbgLIIxu (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Dec 2020 03:53:50 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-x442.google.com (mail-wr1-x442.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::442]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ACC4C0613CF for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2020 00:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wr1-x442.google.com with SMTP id i9so821526wrc.4 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 00:53:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hZKbbks1qBxPHsSHA1EbQoBV4OtXvL2bEd9XjQifoLQ=; b=o8HYJvb0/l34syKtkL3Ksi77fezovCzr9zSl9ZwsKRZLdjJI9wIGloxboakN6uI4d6 6gC691FFJLEWlVMLg5BE1fLvnpO34KZfLx9GoAIbmhZVDw0phYLxCWjPn5ThNOSuBvcn 7qBaukJ0uUn23kGN7bayYk4xZLNlSe+RjrxJkR5qJIkCXFmZ1xE0B0tZawQx89blj8P3 mJLFQHo+kMacrdTa+HaxMLspoGGYDmfiayzddgzaF78VVUD6vv4ZsB8bTlSeBqGPaMrT q4WMQAHrRLQeTRpM4/myyBqKPd+qVSW6ZNZsHTwoRa3XdOo5PtfzAb/T/Ryot1qKePlK RAlg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hZKbbks1qBxPHsSHA1EbQoBV4OtXvL2bEd9XjQifoLQ=; b=IiyWKHqz7eXcUNivh2+HDp1gIxPQGfSLpGwKoMokG7S2VJ+9tN6KEMipC6bTV8/6un 1mkb9Kn/CA12+QobJ/6VG8izz84MEps/m0vY87wHUXpC7H7ejI1CDS1v/wIsZiqs2h3q QTV1PSrk1sINqywG6RIt0vHTnE75i+B1GcBDWjHXHcGg6mPfHzRmONtIYPHkbYrSURJH CAoq3K79paiFziItHNbNJhHm2KcOPUaxal48/sUv3/VPn7SP4L7NV1Ey0zfEzHufSDFl /CA510dGeUKiRYq8xqXYoZvfJSkc9d1yAanSDcwVi8EqgWHnOhXp5wEyqY1hqt4t4Cf6 /JUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531bQJU4KoF6Q0t3RUhPN/WbLb9lYesdjPV06VsK3xsTstGd1gkp dwXGWxFFvLFEFmhL8ScQmNCVF2UEcsXBneBh4L0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxwku/hUyI0iY+3LD8FVSkBBnwsA+CBKvGUccTOy8xcwE4QIxU/WEfQ0ak7Ru+yzctj4C8FTvMM9G6YoAKKREA= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:52c1:: with SMTP id r1mr1425747wrv.255.1607503988334; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 00:53:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20201209002619.25468-1-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Felipe Contreras Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 02:52:57 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add project-wide .vimrc configuration To: Junio C Hamano Cc: "brian m. carlson" , Git , Jeff King , Emily Shaffer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 2:13 AM Junio C Hamano wrote: > > Felipe Contreras writes: > > >> *2* In other words, I doubt these graphs are depicting "how widely > >> is an editor used by developers". It is just showing how often it > >> is installed, and I know the primary workstation I use daily has vim > >> and nano installed without me choosing to have them, as opposed to > >> emacs I had to manually install, and I only use vim once every month > >> and nano once every quarter. > > > > Yes, but in Arch Linux at least no editor is installed by default. > > I thought everybody has nano not because it is adequate and usable > for them, but because it comes by default with distros, and distro > in turn choose nano not because it is particularly popular but is > small enough not to matter if left behind unused when the user > chooses a real editor. > > But you are essentially usaying that 80% of Arch users install nano > by choice. I find it doubly surprising. I double checked. The installation instructions [1] do tell you to pick an editor, and they don't suggest any. I am half-surprised. The StackOverflow question "How do I exit the Vim editor?" has 2.2 million views [2], there's countless memes about that ordeal [3], and the SO team even found it wise to write a blog post about it [4]. I don't know how to exit emacs (Ctrl-X Ctrl-e?), and I suspect many emacs users don't know how to exit vim. Nano doesn't have this problem. Which means for somebody entering the world of Linux, that's a plus. Cheers. [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide#Install_essential_packages [2] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11828270/how-do-i-exit-the-vim-editor [3] https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/993821761648103425 [4] https://stackoverflow.blog/2017/05/23/stack-overflow-helping-one-million-developers-exit-vim/ -- Felipe Contreras