From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: esr@thyrsus.com
Cc: "Magnus Bäck" <baeck@google.com>,
"Michael Haggerty" <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Python extension commands in git - request for policy change
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:16:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMP44s27gdDJGNx-UTe1rdQZFpn3M60L=nMyd69gAFo15VnMAA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121127183530.GB11845@thyrsus.com>
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com> wrote:
> As a general scripting language shell sucks *really badly* compared to
> anything new-school. Performance, portability, you name it, it's a
> mess. It's not so much the shell interpreters itself that are the
> portabilty problem, but (as Magnus implicitly points out) all those
> userland dependencies on sed and tr and awk and even variants of
> expr(!) that get dragged in the second you try to get any actual work
> done.
Somehow it has worked perfectly fine for us.
Also, you are ignoring all the advantages that shell has and python does not.
> Can we cease behaving like we're still pounding keys on 110-baud
> teletypes now? Some old-school Unix habits have persisted long past
> the point that they're even remotely sane. Shell programming at any
> volume above a few lines of throwaway code is one of them - it's
> *nuts* and we should *stop doing it*.
Yes, let's all switch to ruby! Nah, everybody is still using Unix and
shells, they work. If they didn't, we wouldn't be having this
conversation.
What is the big problem? Somebody said we hit a few issues per year?
I've already hit more than that writing code for python just the last
month.
Cheers.
--
Felipe Contreras
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-28 0:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-25 2:44 Python extension commands in git - request for policy change Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 3:15 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-11-25 5:18 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 8:56 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 9:54 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:48 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:50 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:22 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 21:56 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 13:11 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-27 7:54 ` David Aguilar
2012-11-27 8:43 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-27 9:17 ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-11-27 10:51 ` David Aguilar
2012-11-27 22:01 ` Guillaume DE BURE
2012-11-27 15:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2012-11-28 2:09 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:21 ` Johannes Schindelin
2012-11-25 10:26 ` Pat Thoyts
2012-11-25 10:33 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 15:51 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2012-11-25 8:53 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 9:53 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:19 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:32 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:43 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 22:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 11:05 ` Andreas Ericsson
2012-11-25 10:44 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-11-25 10:57 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:51 ` David Lang
2012-11-25 12:01 ` Stefano Lattarini
2012-11-25 17:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 11:25 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-12-11 5:44 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12 0:09 ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-12-12 0:28 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12 0:53 ` Tomas Carnecky
2012-12-12 1:50 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-12-12 2:22 ` Tomas Carnecky
2012-12-12 2:26 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12 5:15 ` Joshua Jensen
2012-12-12 3:30 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-12 5:11 ` Joshua Jensen
2012-12-12 12:23 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-12 6:32 ` Jeff King
2012-12-12 7:03 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12 8:32 ` Jeff King
2012-12-12 12:26 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-12 12:29 ` Jeff King
2012-12-12 17:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 22:21 ` Andrew Ardill
2012-12-12 22:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 7:11 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-12-12 12:43 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-12-19 2:30 ` Patrick Donnelly
2012-11-25 11:40 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 17:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:25 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-25 22:11 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 13:17 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-27 14:35 ` Magnus Bäck
2012-11-27 18:35 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-27 21:08 ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-11-28 0:16 ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2012-12-03 21:45 ` Philippe Vaucher
2012-12-04 14:19 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-12-04 14:40 ` Stephen Bash
2012-11-28 0:10 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-28 0:51 ` Jeff King
2012-11-28 1:22 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-28 1:39 ` Jeff King
2012-11-28 2:06 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-28 15:39 ` Magnus Bäck
2012-11-28 5:08 ` Joshua Jensen
2012-11-25 8:57 ` Johannes Sixt
2012-11-25 10:25 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-25 21:41 ` Krzysztof Mazur
2012-11-25 22:47 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-11-26 5:10 ` Sitaram Chamarty
2012-11-26 8:32 ` Krzysztof Mazur
2012-12-04 15:51 ` Martin Langhoff
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