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From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>
Cc: "Andreas Ericsson" <ae@op5.se>,
	"René Scharfe" <rene.scharfe@lsrfire.ath.cx>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Sverre Rabbelier" <srabbelier@gmail.com>,
	"Ilari Liusvaara" <ilari.liusvaara@elisanet.fi>,
	"Daniel Barkalow" <barkalow@iabervon.org>
Subject: Re: Lack of netiquette, was Re: [PATCH v4 00/13] New remote-hg helper
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:15:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMP44s2CWb8FqDGG4-9X2soaQ+sBLkRRtrj0EkH1YSV8AUu9bg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5097E290.4030700@drmicha.warpmail.net>

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Michael J Gruber
<git@drmicha.warpmail.net> wrote:
> [trimmed down heavily by mjg]
> Felipe Contreras venit, vidit, dixit 05.11.2012 16:22:
>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Michael J Gruber
>> <git@drmicha.warpmail.net> wrote:
>>> Felipe Contreras venit, vidit, dixit 02.11.2012 17:09:
>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Michael J Gruber
>>>> <git@drmicha.warpmail.net> wrote:
>
>> There is no lack of openness from my part. I hear all technical
>> arguments, and I reply on a technical basis. The problem seems to be
>> is that you expect the code submitted to be criticized, but not the
>> criticism it receives. IOW; the submitter has to put up with anything
>> anybody says about his/her code and ideas, but the *reviewer* is
>> untouchable; the submitter cannot ever criticize the reviewer. I can
>
> Feel free to criticize the criticism, just don't offend the criticizer
> (be it the reviewer or the submitter).

As I've said before; I've yet to see where exactly I have done so.

>>> And no, using the same or similar language does not make us the same at
>>> all. Using the same language is the natural prerequisite for successful
>>> communication.
>>
>> Nobody said otherwise.
>
> Well, you did in the post I responded to:
>
>>>> The dangers of "everyone" following the same style of communication,
>>>> and making "everyone" feel comfortable, is that "everyone" ends up
>>>> being the same kind of people

Style of communication != language.

You can use the same language and have vastly different styles of communication.

Imagine a society where everyone has the same style of communication.
Where your free speech ends the moment you diverge from this style.
Well, historically we know these societies have not worked, because
there's people with different styles of communication, and quite often
it's these styles of communication that are needed for certain
messages important to society to be heard.

Sure, it doesn't make you all the same, but it certainly makes it a
narrow spectrum.

> In any case, I feel I've showed enough efforts and there's no point in
> dragging this on.

How convenient. When I ask you specifically for examples where I have
offended anybody, or been harsh, you feel you have "showed enough
efforts"?

Claims require evidence.

Cheers.

-- 
Felipe Contreras

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-05 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-28  3:54 [PATCH v4 00/13] New remote-hg helper Felipe Contreras
2012-10-28  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] Add new remote-hg transport helper Felipe Contreras
2012-10-28  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] remote-hg: add support for bookmarks Felipe Contreras
2012-10-28  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] remote-hg: add support for pushing Felipe Contreras
2012-10-28  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] remote-hg: add support for remote pushing Felipe Contreras
2012-10-28  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] remote-hg: add support to push URLs Felipe Contreras
2012-10-28  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] remote-hg: make sure the encoding is correct Felipe Contreras
2012-10-28  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] remote-hg: match hg merge behavior Felipe Contreras
2012-10-28  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] remote-hg: add support for hg-git compat mode Felipe Contreras
2012-10-28  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] remote-hg: add compat for hg-git author fixes Felipe Contreras
2012-10-28  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] remote-hg: fake bookmark when there's none Felipe Contreras
2012-10-28  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] remote-hg: add support for fake remote Felipe Contreras
2012-10-28  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] remote-hg: add tests to compare with hg-git Felipe Contreras
2012-10-28  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] remote-hg: add extra author test Felipe Contreras
2012-10-29  8:50 ` [PATCH v4 00/13] New remote-hg helper Jeff King
2012-10-29 14:56   ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-29 21:26     ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 21:47       ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-29 21:56         ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 22:02           ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-29 22:06             ` Jeff King
2012-10-30 17:18               ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-30 17:20           ` Johannes Schindelin
2012-10-30 18:10             ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-30 19:33               ` Johannes Schindelin
2012-10-30 20:15                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-31  9:30                   ` Michael J Gruber
2012-10-31 10:27                     ` Jeff King
2012-10-31 15:58                       ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-31 18:20                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2012-10-31 18:41                         ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-31 18:59                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-10-31 19:24                             ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-31 20:28                               ` Lack of netiquette, was " Johannes Schindelin
2012-10-31 20:37                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-01  1:32                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-01  2:58                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-01 13:46                                     ` René Scharfe
2012-11-01 14:18                                       ` Tomas Carnecky
2012-11-01 14:18                                       ` Martin Langhoff
2012-11-01 14:34                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-01 14:47                                         ` Martin Langhoff
2012-11-01 17:13                                           ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-02  9:38                                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2012-11-02 11:03                                         ` Michael J Gruber
2012-11-02 16:09                                           ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-05  9:25                                             ` Michael J Gruber
2012-11-05 15:22                                               ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-05 15:58                                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-05 16:00                                                 ` Michael J Gruber
2012-11-05 16:15                                                   ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2012-11-01 20:46                                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-10-31 23:14                               ` Daniel Barkalow
2012-11-01  2:46                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-01  1:41                         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-01  2:54                           ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-31 15:39                     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-31 15:55                       ` Michael J Gruber
2012-10-31 16:11                         ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-02 14:46                           ` Jeff King
2012-11-02 18:39                             ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-02 19:20                               ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-04  2:28                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-02 23:18                               ` Thomas Adam
2012-11-02 23:52                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-31 18:04                         ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-31 19:47                           ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-01  4:08                             ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-02 14:48                               ` Jeff King
2012-11-02 16:41                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-02 18:01                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-05 14:13                                     ` Michael J Gruber
2012-11-05 15:36                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-01  1:22                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-01  2:50                         ` Felipe Contreras

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