From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Felipe Contreras Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:43:11 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20130608164902.GA3109@elie.Belkin> <20130608173447.GA4381@elie.Belkin> <20130609014049.GA10375@google.com> <20130609052624.GB561@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20130609180437.GB810@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20130609184553.GG810@sigill.intra.peff.net> <7vppvvnetw.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> <7v8v2il62c.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Junio C Hamano , Jeff King , Ramkumar Ramachandra , Jonathan Nieder , Duy Nguyen , Git Mailing List , Brandon Casey To: Matthieu Moy X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Jun 10 23:43:31 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Um9sA-0005bU-Ec for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 23:43:30 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752814Ab3FJVnO (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:43:14 -0400 Received: from mail-lb0-f179.google.com ([209.85.217.179]:54768 "EHLO mail-lb0-f179.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751997Ab3FJVnN (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:43:13 -0400 Received: by mail-lb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id w20so6690452lbh.24 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:43:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=DM5bsQf79XZbm4bBuzEdGFtCGnOas+Sx/ZNZ8QMJjQA=; b=L7iMdi0anNC6+f9SqNUROIT8yg2rc3ab5B2pKakMDoR6cNh7IvP79dU/5acjQ/rrMY TCjJ6Fe53PEURYcwRmnYoWUxjyr4l9uIexcV/XtSAfAYXJbBAakvI0pqBG7PRhZ2icDN Xk/Vl07SAhEGveanT9ztjPaNu75lCX71DiaTtlSYjm0V3+go5EtoUt/kNxYrC/+ftSxd 8UsRnlAUcYithn/5ymwAQwOnfG/EYxc1uFa9QRK+epvc3ei7SJ5cfenNSNs6z7TZHjZ7 rfPOEncgwDRAnwdXjw64kh+XJw8L5Eh6y6s3pIO6mFLHootudpg7k8BSlgvFS7kKLfGg pWNg== X-Received: by 10.152.22.130 with SMTP id d2mr5427130laf.33.1370900592083; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.59.202 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:43:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Matthieu Moy wrote: > Felipe Contreras writes: > >> It is not bad behavior. It is bad behavior *in your opinion*, > > And in essentially everyone else on this list, it seems. So? An opinion shared by a billion people is still an opinion, not a fact. To think otherwise is to fall in the argumentum ad populum fallacy. >> an opinion that wouldn't be shared by other projects, like the Linux >> kernel. > > Googling your name and LKML gives me this in the first page (addressed > to you): > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/4/12/434 > "I'm stupider for just reading your email. Go away." > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/4/15/112 > "I'll make one more try at explaining to you, but then I'll just set my > mail reader to ignore you, because judging by past performance (not > just in this thread) you will just continue to argue." > > I don't follow the lkml so maybe I've just been unlucky and Google > didn't show me an accurate sample, but arguing that your behavior is > welcome on the LKML seems weird. Now you are committing two fallacies at the same time; argument from authority and hasty generalization. Yes, Linus Torvalds lost his temper with me, he has done so with so many people that's hardly surprising. I still think he is wrong, but to prove it I need information that is not readily available, and it's not that important anyway. That doesn't mean that Linus' opinion is shared by the list (or any other Linux mailing list); if you think so you are committing the hasty generalization fallacy. And if you think Linus' opinion means something is a fact you commit the argument from authority fallacy. None of this mean that my patches are not welcome in LKML, or any other Linux mailing list. I repeat what Linus said: Talk is cheap, show me the code. -- Felipe Contreras