From: demerphq <demerphq@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Potapov <dpotapov@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>,
Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: push.default: current vs upstream
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:36:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANgJU+VM4Dz3-EGa6z4hB8hB7ZvaahrG8tb5VCCzWQ=7zohBFA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHkcotjrVqvYnAV5U7gPngbW0saghAv8vZB3jh=dOKLPmYdJrQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 6 April 2012 13:38, Dmitry Potapov <dpotapov@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seriously, why do you care about beginners who use a centralized workflow
> and not beginners who have to use with existing projects that use more or
> less distributed workflow,
Because the former are unlikely to be self-selected users of git and
instead are likely to be forced to use git because their $work has
dictated it to be so. The self-selected users of git IMO would tend to
both have the motivation and the basic skills to learn whatever they
need and are unlikely to blame their mistakes on git. The ones forced
to use git are *very* likely to say "git is broken", or "git doesn't
work" and then start arguing that "cvs never had that problem". Do you
really want a bunch of users of your software thinking CVS was
superior?
I would say the right default is the one that keeps idiot users happy,
and has the least "out of the box surprises" for them. The smart ones
will figure things out anyway and configure their tools appropriately.
cheers
Yves
--
perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"
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2012-03-28 19:47 [ANNOUNCE] Git 1.7.10-rc3 Junio C Hamano
2012-03-29 9:52 ` Jeff King
2012-03-29 21:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-29 22:11 ` Jeff King
2012-03-30 1:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-30 7:13 ` push.default: current vs upstream Jeff King
2012-03-30 20:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-30 21:01 ` Jeff King
2012-03-30 21:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-30 21:53 ` Jeff King
2012-03-30 22:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-30 22:20 ` Jeff King
2012-03-30 23:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-31 22:49 ` Nathan Gray
2012-03-31 23:48 ` Seth Robertson
2012-04-01 2:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-01 5:58 ` Nathan Gray
2012-04-02 7:40 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-02 16:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-02 17:20 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-02 18:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-02 18:58 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-02 19:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-02 20:40 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-02 20:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-02 21:02 ` demerphq
2012-04-02 21:16 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-04 7:57 ` demerphq
2012-04-05 13:13 ` Jeff King
2012-04-05 16:46 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-06 7:15 ` Jeff King
2012-04-06 7:44 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-06 8:00 ` Jeff King
2012-04-06 17:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-06 18:01 ` Jehan Bing
2012-04-07 7:49 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-04-07 7:51 ` Jeff King
2012-04-07 8:40 ` Andrew Sayers
2012-04-12 7:11 ` Jeff King
2012-04-12 15:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-12 21:16 ` Andrew Sayers
2012-04-12 21:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-12 22:11 ` Jeff King
2012-04-12 22:59 ` Philip Oakley
2012-04-13 19:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-17 20:13 ` Andrew Sayers
2012-04-08 4:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-11 16:17 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-11 16:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-12 7:55 ` Jeff King
2012-04-12 8:09 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-12 8:14 ` Jeff King
2012-04-12 8:59 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-12 15:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-19 16:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-19 20:38 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-19 21:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-19 22:57 ` [RFC/PATCH 0/3] push.default upcomming change Matthieu Moy
2012-04-19 22:57 ` [PATCH 1/3] push: introduce new push.default mode "simple" Matthieu Moy
2012-04-19 23:46 ` Jeff King
2012-04-20 14:52 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 0/4 v2] push.default upcomming change Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] Documentation: explain push.default option a bit more Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 20:13 ` Jeff King
2012-04-20 21:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-21 3:51 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-04-21 4:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-21 5:01 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-04-21 5:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 2/4] push: introduce new push.default mode "simple" Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 20:33 ` Jeff King
2012-04-22 16:24 ` Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
2012-04-20 21:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 8:38 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 3/4] t5570: use explicit push refspec Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 14:59 ` [PATCH 4/4] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Matthieu Moy
2012-04-20 20:35 ` [PATCH 0/4 v2] push.default upcomming change Jeff King
2012-04-22 11:05 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 2:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 8:37 ` [PATCH 0/7 v3] " Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 8:37 ` [PATCH 1/7] Documentation: explain push.default option a bit more Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 15:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 19:00 ` Philip Oakley
2012-04-23 19:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 21:01 ` Philip Oakley
2012-04-23 8:37 ` [PATCH 2/7] Undocument deprecated alias 'push.default=tracking' Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 15:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 17:10 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2013-01-31 17:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 19:07 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 19:11 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 19:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 19:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 19:57 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 20:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 20:11 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 20:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 20:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 20:04 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 20:08 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-01-31 20:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 20:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 21:00 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-02-01 1:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-31 21:08 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-01-31 20:41 ` Philip Oakley
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 3/7] t5528-push-default.sh: add helper functions Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 15:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:02 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 16:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:20 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 16:57 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 17:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:45 ` [PATCH 2/3] fixup! " Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] push: suggested updates to push configuration documentation Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 4/7] push: introduce new push.default mode "simple" Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 10:32 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-04-23 11:20 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 15:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-23 16:09 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 5/7] t5570: use explicit push refspec Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 6/7] push: document the future default change for push.default (matching -> simple) Matthieu Moy
2012-04-23 8:38 ` [PATCH 7/7] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:49 ` [PATCH 0/7 v4] push.default upcomming change Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 1/7] Documentation: explain push.default option a bit more Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 2/7] Undocument deprecated alias 'push.default=tracking' Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 3/7] t5528-push-default.sh: add helper functions Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 4/7] push: introduce new push.default mode "simple" Matthieu Moy
2012-04-25 1:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-25 11:01 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 5/7] t5570: use explicit push refspec Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 6/7] push: document the future default change for push.default (matching -> simple) Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 7:50 ` [PATCH 7/7] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Matthieu Moy
2012-04-24 19:28 ` [PATCH 0/7 v4] push.default upcomming change Junio C Hamano
2012-04-19 22:57 ` [PATCH 2/3] t5570: use explicit push refspec Matthieu Moy
2012-04-19 22:57 ` [PATCH 3/3] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Matthieu Moy
2012-04-26 5:44 ` [PATCH] t5541: warning message is given even with --quiet Junio C Hamano
2012-04-26 6:31 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-04-11 2:08 ` [RFC/PATCH] Give better 'pull' advice when pushing non-ff updates to current branch Christopher Tiwald
2012-04-06 11:38 ` push.default: current vs upstream Dmitry Potapov
2012-04-06 13:36 ` demerphq [this message]
2012-04-06 18:03 ` Dmitry Potapov
2012-04-06 18:48 ` demerphq
2012-04-06 19:38 ` Dmitry Potapov
2012-03-30 23:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-03 20:59 ` Jeff King
2012-04-03 21:04 ` Jeff King
2012-04-03 22:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-03 23:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-04-05 12:45 ` Jeff King
2012-04-08 12:52 ` Felipe Contreras
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