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From: Tao Klerks <tao@klerks.biz>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Cc: Alex Henrie <alexhenrie24@gmail.com>,
	Tao Klerks via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pull: conflict hint pull.rebase suggestion should offer "merges" vs "true"
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 07:01:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPMMpojCYAwwu6_BE+myFaUy6fLqVSWAyiRWr_dGAmMqqUF12Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BFxGYQ_JTC5c4_S_gOK3GxWKuZ=KfvycpkBjPGyKzCJ+g@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 4:17 AM Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:02 PM Alex Henrie <alexhenrie24@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 5:31 AM Tao Klerks <tao@klerks.biz> wrote:
> > >
> > > If there's an appetite for it, I would love to contribute to a
> > > multi-year adventure to change git's behavior, little by little, until
> > > the behavior of "rebase=merges" is the default, and the old behavior
> > > becomes a different option like
> > > "rebase=copy-merged-commits-to-flatten"
> >
> > I know you had a lot to say in your last email, but I'd like to focus
> > on this point. I would be OK with the proposed patch if it were part
> > of a larger effort to make --rebase-merges the default behavior of
> > `git rebase`. That seems like an achievable goal, and I don't think it
> > would take multiple years, maybe one year at the most. The process
> > would look something like this:
> >
<SNIP>
> >
> > Does that sound reasonable? I think I could lend a hand with steps 1-3.
>
> One concern I have is that "--rebase-merges" itself has negative user
> surprises in store.  In particular, "--rebase-merges", despite its
> name, does not rebase merges.  It uses the existing author & commit
> message info, but otherwise just discards the existing merge and
> creates a new one.  Any information it contained about fixing
> conflicts, or making adjustments to make the two branches work
> together, is summarily and silently discarded.
>
> My personal opinion would be adding such a capability should be step
> 2.5 in your list, though I suspect that would make Tao unhappy (it's a
> non-trivial amount of work, unlike the other steps in your list).

I apologize for my ignorance here, but I'm not sure how this "does not
rebase merges" concern overlaps with the "pull.rebase" context I'm
most specifically concerned about.

I would have assumed that when merge commits are "dropped", as results
from the current "pull.rebase=true" option in the pull conflict
advice, any merge resolution information is *also* dropped - so there
is no loss to the user here in advising the use of
"pull.rebase=merges" instead.

Is your concern about the "pull.rebase=merges" advice change, or more
about the broader "let's encourage users to more explicitly choose
between traditional merge-dropping rebase and rebase-merges" change
Alex is advocating for as a precondition to "my" change :) ?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-20  6:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-05 16:24 [PATCH] pull: conflict hint pull.rebase suggestion should offer "merges" vs "true" Tao Klerks via GitGitGadget
2023-02-16  3:22 ` Alex Henrie
2023-02-16 12:31   ` Tao Klerks
2023-02-17  3:15     ` Alex Henrie
2023-02-17 11:15       ` Tao Klerks
2023-02-17 18:56         ` Alex Henrie
2023-02-17 17:39       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-18  3:17       ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-18 16:39         ` Phillip Wood
2023-02-20  8:03           ` Tao Klerks
2023-02-20 16:45             ` Phillip Wood
2023-02-20 16:56             ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-21 14:04               ` Tao Klerks
2023-02-22 14:27             ` Sergey Organov
2023-02-24  7:06               ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-24 22:06                 ` Sergey Organov
2023-02-24 23:59                   ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-25 15:15                     ` Sergey Organov
2023-02-25 16:28                       ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-26  9:29                         ` Sergey Organov
2023-02-27 15:20                           ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-27 17:17                             ` Sergey Organov
2023-02-28  2:35                               ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-20 16:46           ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-20  6:01         ` Tao Klerks [this message]
2023-02-20 17:20           ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-20 18:33             ` Alex Henrie
2023-02-21 15:40               ` Tao Klerks
2023-02-21 17:45                 ` Alex Henrie
2023-02-21 15:01             ` Tao Klerks
2023-02-24  7:06               ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-28 14:13     ` Felipe Contreras
2023-02-28 20:04       ` Alex Henrie
2023-03-01 12:46         ` Felipe Contreras

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